Hello All,
I recently acquired a Kellogg wall phone that my Dad had restored back in the 60s. I want to mount it to my wall which is masonry. I made a template, drilled holes and inserted plastic anchors, but stopped when I lifted this beast. I even read the 1918 guide on mounting these phones to masonry, but still thought that I should ask here for advice. (I will also add that living in SoCal has the ever present threat of earthquakes).
What have others done to securely mount these heavy phones?
Thanks,
-WM
Ah, what the heck. I went for it!
Wish the Edison Cylinder player luck.
-WM
The plastic anchors and bolts look reasonably sized. When they sit in solid masonry (and not only crumbly mortar) Mr. Edison will be fine with it.
Thanks Countryman!
The 1918 Mounting Instructions show only mounting two diagonal screws and just having "dummies" in the other two. I am nervous with 4. lol
Nice display.
Our walls here can be difficult to get a good fix into. For wall phones the best way for us is to use a back board. As it is not vintage we use as many heavy duty fixings as we think it needs for the weight it will carry. The phones are then securely screwed onto that.
nice job.....is it missing a shelf? There should be holes if it is. It would look like this....Doug
Quote from: FABphones on June 13, 2021, 04:37:57 AM
Nice display.
Our walls here can be difficult to get a good fix into. For wall phones the best way for us is to use a back board. As it is not vintage we use as many heavy duty fixings as we think it needs for the weight it will carry. The phones are then securely screwed onto that.
Good Idea! I had thought about that as well. Would you mind sending me a photo of one of your installs?
-WM
Quote from: Doug Rose on June 13, 2021, 08:13:00 AM
nice job.....is it missing a shelf? There should be holes if it is. It would look like this....Doug
Thanks Doug,
I do have some shelves in my parts stash, but decided to leave this one as my dad had restored it back in the 60s.
-WM
Looks great...Doug
I would recommend using the same set up that many pay phone collectors use. It is on here somewhere but I could not locate it with a quick search. Basically just cut a piece of wood, one by works, at a 45 degree angle. Attach one piece securely to the wall and the other piece to the back of the phone. Slip it on and you are done!
Quote from: HarrySmith on June 14, 2021, 08:12:42 AM
I would recommend using the same set up that many pay phone collectors use. It is on here somewhere but I could not locate it with a quick search. Basically just cut a piece of wood, one by works, at a 45 degree angle. Attach one piece securely to the wall and the other piece to the back of the phone. Slip it on and you are done!
Thank you Harry,
That method sounds very helpful too. I would love to see an example as I am only partially grasping the concept. Having all cement walls keeps the hammer drill and fresh masonry bits always ready.
-WM
I searched again but could not find the posting on here. I know I saw it at one time. Basically mount a piece with the 45 degree cut on the back of the phone with the cut down. Mount the other piece with the cut up. Then it sits right in tight & strong.
Quote from: HarrySmith on June 14, 2021, 12:57:15 PM
I searched again but could not find the posting on here. I know I saw it at one time. Basically mount a piece with the 45 degree cut on the back of the phone with the cut down. Mount the other piece with the cut up. Then it sits right in tight & strong.
Thank you!
ps: I also have a '37 302 like your profile pic. I bought a 201 a couple of years ago just to get the '37 seamless handset for it. lol
-WM
Quote from: HarrySmith on June 14, 2021, 12:57:15 PM
I searched again but could not find the posting on here. I know I saw it at one time. Basically mount a piece with the 45 degree cut on the back of the phone with the cut down. Mount the other piece with the cut up. Then it sits right in tight & strong.
It's called a French Cleat
Quote from: Argee on June 14, 2021, 04:31:10 PM
It's called a French Cleat
Excellent! I just watched a few videos on the French Cleat and it makes sense. Now, I just need to determine how thick it should be to look good behind the phone and then get the motivation to dismount and lift the heavy beast again. lol
Thanks,
-WM
Quote from: Argee on June 14, 2021, 04:31:10 PM
It's called a French Cleat
Thank you!!! I knew that was what it was called but I was racking my brain and could not come up with it.
Quote from: HarrySmith on June 14, 2021, 12:57:15 PM
...I know I saw it at one time. Basically mount a piece with the 45 degree cut on the back of the phone with the cut down. Mount the other piece with the cut up. Then it sits right in tight & strong.
Mentioned on these threads.
:)
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=15608
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11158
Quote from: FABphones on June 14, 2021, 05:43:51 PM
Mentioned on these threads.
:)
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=15608
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11158
Great!
Thank you,
-WM
this from a guy who lived in Mexico for 18 years where everything was brick and mortar or concrete walls, and a guy who mounted old heavy wooden box 26 inch TVs all over a Greyhound race track for years...me...
I would NEVER EVER , NOT FOR ANY REASON trust a plastic anchor, especially with an antique phone!
Below is the only type of anchor I would trust!
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401219379241-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
Quote from: markosjal on August 02, 2022, 04:05:31 AM...
I would NEVER EVER , NOT FOR ANY REASON trust a plastic anchor, especially with an antique phone!
Below is the only type of anchor I would trust!
Depends on what you mean by a plastic anchor. We have all our kitchen wall cupboards fixed to a blockwork wall with standard screws and plastic Rawlplugs. It's the standard method of fixing things to solid walls here in the UK and works just fine.
That's a standard anchor and works just fine in solid blocks. The metal version will not hold any better in loose mortar or whatever you find in certain old half-timber / half-brick buildings (like mine...)
There are ingenious plastic anchors that also cope with more "special" situations.
Best tip for drywall kitchens I got is to put OSB or particle board behind the sheetrock. You can use wood screws wherever you want then with no anchors at all.
There are also "chemical anchors", two part resin cartridges to glue in threaded rods. Insert glass cartridge into hole, hammer in the rod, wait, will never come out again.