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Started by joey67, February 25, 2011, 08:27:38 PM

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HarrySmith

I learned something too. I never knew the AE modle had a coil & condensor in them! Clever packaging. I have seen them with the matching ringer box and assumed it was a subset like the WE.
Harry Smith
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TCI

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there is only
do or do not"

Wallphone

Doug, don't carve that in stone yet. That is how rumors get started. I have never heard a WE 201 called a Spacemaker. Here is an AE GSP 473-301-200 for the 183 Model. On the first page at 1.01 you will see that Spacemaker is an AE term. > http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=550&Itemid=2 < Here are a couple of items from the Telephone Archive. 
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/we/we201_ss.html <
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/ae/ae183sm.html <
Doug Pav

Doug Rose

Quote from: Wallphone on February 27, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Doug, don't carve that in stone yet. That is how rumors get started. I have never heard a WE 201 called a Spacemaker. Here is an AE GSP 473-301-200 for the 183 Model. On the first page at 1.01 you will see that Spacemaker is an AE term. > http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=550&Itemid=2 < Here are a couple of items from the Telephone Archive. 
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/we/we201_ss.html <
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/ae/ae183sm.html <
Doug Pav
Doug.....this is how I understood it, I always thought Space SAVER was a WE name. Buffing the stone as you read this.....Other Doug
Kidphone

marty

Hi Joe;
I am also fairly new to this forum, not in age.. About a month ago I got a phone and a subset from a friend as part of helping Him clean out His Garage.. I now have 3 phones , with anothe to come in the near future... Welcome to the forum !!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU Marty

Jim Stettler

Quote from: Kidphone on February 27, 2011, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: Wallphone on February 27, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Doug, don't carve that in stone yet. That is how rumors get started. I have never heard a WE 201 called a Spacemaker. Here is an AE GSP 473-301-200 for the 183 Model. On the first page at 1.01 you will see that Spacemaker is an AE term. > http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=550&Itemid=2 < Here are a couple of items from the Telephone Archive. 
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/we/we201_ss.html <
> http://www.telephonearchive.com/phones/ae/ae183sm.html <
Doug Pav
Doug.....this is how I understood it, I always thought Space SAVER was a WE name. Buffing the stone as you read this.....Other Doug

Now I am confused.

In real life most collectors call these styles "spacesaver". I think the BSP for a 211 lists it as a hand telephone set.

Jim
You live, You learn,
You die, you forget it all.

bingster

I think "spacesaver" is like "Band-Aid," being a trademarked name  of one specific manufacturer (AE) but which is used generically for all similar types.  Like Jim, I've never heard the WE versions called anything officially except "hand telephone set," and in early advertising, they were referred to as "hanging handsets."
= DARRIN =



AE_Collector

#21
I always thought that Space Saver was a WECo term but have never actually seen that in writing. I have seen Space Maker in writing in AE documents as Doug Pav (wallphone) points out so my assumption has always been that the officaial AE name is Space Maker just to keep it different from WECo. Space Saver does get used as a generic name for this type of phone as well.

All AE Space Makers are self contained phones but they do not have a ringer. I believe that even includes the earliest AE Space Maker, the AE #4 like Stub's Avatar.

Terry

stub

#22
 Joe,     Survey says-----   :o   Spacemaker  ::) for the AE
My avatar is called a Dial Monophone Extension Set. I sure would like to find one!!!  The Type 43 was called a Compact Monophone and the 83 was called Compact Telephone . With the AE phones all you will need is a external ringer box with bells and a capacitor.   stub
Kenneth Stubblefield

GG



The older AE model (as shown in pictures on the first page of this thread) had a coil & capacitor similar to what the AE 43 had.  The newer AE model (which is configurable and uses a type 81 or 810 handset) has a network block inside.  Neither of them needs a complete subset.  Both of them need ringer boxes.

These and especially the WE versions were also known colloquially as "knee-hole phones" because they were often mounted in the knee-holes of desks to maximize available desk space.  I was surprised to see them marketed as residential wall phones in the 30s (with E1 handsets of course) because I had identified them with business environments such as the hardware store where I saw one when I was a little kid (and thought it was darn cool too).   Yet, they certainly do fit into places where other wall phones will not go, except possibly Trimlines and such. 

BTW, WE made one with chromed (or polished steel?) housing as well as hookswitch and other parts.  This I know because one passed through my hands when I was in high school in the late 70s (it appeared to be plated rather than polished).  Should have kept it.  Darn.  Back then, everything WE was so easily obtainable that it appeared the supply would go on forever.  Think of a basement full of 302s (and a refurb workshop), for selling at the local flea market, installation available for an additional hourly rate.  Sigh...