I saw this...I liked it....I offered $75.00....seller accepted.
https://tinyurl.com/yarkkyfm ( dead link 02-09-22 )
Wonder how it came to be chromed? Was there a private/commercial re builder that did these conversations? Don't know if handset is painted, seller hasn't responded.
Comments on any observations welcomed!
Benny
Great deal. I would of bought it.
Jim S.
Wow. I love it. You guys are so lucky with your finds over there.
Do update us about the handset when it arrives.
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Quote from: FabPhones on June 24, 2018, 06:46:07 PM
Wow. I love it. You guys are so lucky with your finds over there.
Do update us about the handset when it arrives.
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I asked and waited....In the end I was afraid it would sell while I was waiting on my answer...so it really didn't matter....I'll let you know!
Set was assembled by Chicago old Telephone co.I might have even built it.Handset is painted with custom metal bands.Cradle is off a Belgium set by ATEA., Base is a repro WE from Phone co. Dial is a AE conversion using custom parts -I know i built it. The plating alone would cost you more than you payed
Quote from: rdelius on June 24, 2018, 07:32:22 PM
Set was assembled by Chicago old Telephone co.I might have even built it.Handset is painted with custom metal bands.Cradle is off a Belgium set by ATEA., Base is a repro WE from Phone co. Dial is a AE conversion using custom parts -I know i built it. The plating alone would cost you more than you payed
I tend to read so much about different phones here and other sources, it's difficult for me to recall it all. When I saw the chrome base, I thought it had been a reproduction by someone. Thanks for the response rdelius.
If you did it, at least I know it was done well! The look is a good look. I'm pleased!
Thanks again!
Benny
Great find Benny. I'd have bought it if I had seen it.
Quote from: oldguy on June 24, 2018, 10:32:59 PM
Great find Benny. I'd have bought it if I had seen it.
I lost a good phone on EBAY because I hesitated. I didn't mess around with this one. Thanks for the thumbs up!
Yup,,,nice phone...nice price, congrats. :)
Forgot this but some have AE mini networks others are series wired. Have a buzzer or tweeter also
Quote from: rdelius on June 25, 2018, 06:23:15 PM
Forgot this but some have AE mini networks others are series wired. Have a buzzer or tweeter also
Glad you added that....
Today I was thinking about that. I was going to ask you about that. There is another one on EBAY with a network and buzzer.
https://tinyurl.com/y86xswer
Someone cracked open the piggy bank and two phones fell out.
Is that one of yours, too?
I did not assemble that one but it is from COT.Phoneco sold them also but used lesser quality dials,plastic handsets from Norway sets and painted cradles.We did use type 38 handsets but they got to hard to find
I like your price & the white handset better Benny.
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I agree on both accounts, Gary!
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Well it came in today & I must say I like it very much. My complements to rdelius! You did good!
I polished it good, it hadn't been polished in a while. It has a rattler inside as a ringer, everything works as it should.
I hate the cheap ugly brown cloth cords. It's almost like they have coat hanger wires inside.
I ordered a ivory braided handset cord for it from Old Phone Shop, on EBAY. https://tinyurl.com/y92luhs8 (Picture below)
This will look so much nicer.
I also parked it next to my A1 so you can see the difference.
I'll post pics of the inside soon.
Benny
Edit: I ordered the matching line cord as well.....She deserves it! (Yes, I assigned a gender.)
We had that cord made locally. Sent 100 foot spools to cotton mills that made shoe laces and covered it. It made putting modular connectors on it easy and quick. The other coradge that was being sold was loosely woven braided imported stuff that could not be gaurenteed by us to hold up. Some batches were stiffer than others.House of Telephones was not making cordage yet and Runzel might have been out of business
That was probably a good way to provide cordage at a very good price.
Do you know what these sold for?
Wow that handset polished up nicely, you could shave in the reflection
She's a real looker, Gary.....Can't wait to see her with her new cords!
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My cords came in today and I also took some pictures of the inside.
rdelius, There are two hand written notations on stickers on the inside. Perhaps you recognize the initials? (one fell loose)
It appears the phone was assembled in 1988 and a adjustment was made in '90.
The braided ivory cord does the trick!
Benny
Cool! That cord finishes it off nicely.
Quote from: HarrySmith on July 06, 2018, 11:09:51 AM
Cool! That cord finishes it off nicely.
Thanks Harry, it is a nice upgrade!
I just saw this one on eBay Benny
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-DECO-ROTARY-DESK-TELEPHONE/173396908077?
One of our earlier ones.Norway painted handset and NOS AE dial with no chrome ring..Could not have had it 45 years.25 to30 years possssible. No WE parts except repro base.
These are really nice phones. I really love mine. The paint job on the handset is flawless. Beautiful appearance and they work perfectly.
I must say after seeing a couple more of them, I really got a good buy!
Y'all did a good job, rdelius!
You got a better deal.Those norwegian handsets are light weight plastic.I doubt any of them were sold at that kind of price unless a custom job with gold plating.
This looks like a similar phone on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOMATIC-ELECTRIC-MONOPHONE-TELEPHONE-BRASS-TRIM-CLOTH-CORDS-WORKS/253797487608?
Definatly Chicago Old Telephone co .This one most likely has a buzzer it.
If the price doesn't go too high, I think I will buy it.
Quote from: oldguy on August 07, 2018, 05:54:27 PM
If the price doesn't go too high, I think I will buy it.
Good luck!....
Quote from: oldguy on August 07, 2018, 05:54:27 PM
If the price doesn't go too high, I think I will buy it.
It went for a little less than I paid for mine...$76.00...not bad! Did you get it?
I had bid $75, got sniped in the seconds
Oh man!...maybe next time....I have seen several lately, I'll keep a eye open! ;)
Thanks Benny.
I found another one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-DECO-ROTARY-DESK-TELEPHONE/173453470171?
Most likely one of ours (COT) before we switched to an AE handset.Phoneco did not use these type dials
He is very proud of that one!...
Looks like a S.C. handset with some AE caps on it...
I like the bathroom picture....Will help the sell..
Should be an auction, not a BIN.
I like the bathroom picture....Will help the sell..
[/quote] Bathroom is right next to my phone Room so I am always taking pics in there. I like real light best for selling, but if the weather is bad or I am just plain ole lazy, I jump into the bath. Great lighting...Doug
Handset is off a Norweigen EB set
I guess i'm trying to keep up with Benny. I bought this on ebay because I've been looking for a chrome D1 for quite a while. I bought this thing for less than I could get a D1 body & cradle chromed for. looks like a AE handset. I thought it looked nice, even though its a frankenphone.
I like it. I've developed quite a soft spot for shinies. :)
Quote from: oldguy on October 05, 2018, 08:29:52 PM
I guess i'm trying to keep up with Benny. I bought this on ebay because I've been looking for a chrome D1 for quite a while. I bought this thing for less than I could get a D1 body & cradle chromed for. looks like a AE handset. I thought it looked nice, even though its a frankenphone.
I call it a shiny phone. I like those, I buy shiny phones for my non-standard finish collection. It is a nice frakenphone I am cool with it as well.
Please put it int the find of the month. Add why it is cool to you. I suspect it is cool to me for the same reasons.
Nice find.
JMO,
Jim S.
I liked it as well. ...nice catch....Doug
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One shiny guy to another....
Well done, Gary...
Mine is still sitting front and center on my desk....Enjoy!
it would not be hard to install an E1 to but it back to all WE
I think it would look good with an E1. However, that early AE handset with chrome bands really looks sharp on that phone. Since I like shiny phones, the look is were it is at. If it were mine, I would leave it as it is.
Just my opinion,
Jim S.
I agree, Jim...
Thanks guys, for all the positive comments. It's nice to know I'm not the only one that likes shiny things :) :)
Gary....do you have a link for this auction....I was watching it and then I lost track of it....thanks...>Doug
Here's the link Doug.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1930-s-Western-Electric-Chrome-Bakelite-Desktop-Telephone/263954000094
Gary.....you got a deal. Chrome band AE handset is a beauty in itself is a nice find. What a great find....Doug
Thanks Doug, I was the 1st bidder & bid $120, hoping to get the phone at closer to the opening price of $69 but somebody bid me through the roof. Could it have been a tactic of the seller? Having somebody bid it up? The bidding seems weird to me.
Quote from: oldguy on October 10, 2018, 08:33:17 AM
Thanks Doug, I was the 1st bidder & bid $120, hoping to get the phone at closer to the opening price of $69 but somebody bid me through the roof. Could it have been a tactic of the seller? Having somebody bid it up? The bidding seems weird to me.
Hmmm... I took a look at the bidding, that comes across as very odd to me too. Pushing it up so many times by just $2 on each bid. Maybe so they could retract their 'last bid' yet stay close to your top bid (if/when theirs went higher than yours). Is there any way to nicely question it via eBay? Maybe a quick chat with them? They might be able to see how closely (in distance or otherwise) the other bidder info resembles the seller info. They won't (and shouldn't) release any of the other bidder info, but they will be able to see if the other bidder lives in the same town as the seller, and how recent their eBay Account is.
Either way, very nice phone, I would be very pleased to have one in my collection.
Quote from: FABphones on October 10, 2018, 09:23:16 AM
Hmmm... I took a look at the bidding, that comes across as very odd to me too. Pushing it up so many times by just $2 on each bid. Maybe so they could retract their 'last bid' yet stay close to your top bid if/when theirs went higher than yours). Is there any way to nicely question it via eBay? Maybe a quick chat with them? They might be able to see how closely (in distance or otherwise) the other bidder info resembles the seller info. They won't (and shouldn't) release any of the other bidder info, but they will be able to see if the other bidder lives in the same town as the seller, and how recent their eBay Account is.
Regular Member Post (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=20151.msg206412#msg206412)
That style or type of bidding is not unusual. Since I update the number of bidders and bids on each auction contest, I see it often.
In this case, the buyer l***d ( 267) placed a very high bid on 9/23 and 6 days later, a very new eBay buyer p***s (1) saw the listing sitting at its listed price. That buyer then bid the minimum only to find out he/she was overbid. So, another minimum bid and overbid again. Kept this up for 15 more times and at $105 was still overbid. p***s (1) at that point did not want to pay more than $105 for the phone and it went to l***d ( 267) for $107.50, the minimum increase of $2.50 once over $100, and high bid l***d ( 267) was never exposed, topped by any other buyer.
Auction contest 345 had a similar bidding style except the winning buyer a***d (94)s high bid was exposed twice by a***u (368) so had to increase his/her bid and then put in an even higher bid about 4 hours after the last bid was placed by a***u (368) to make sure they won the phone. a***u (368) gave up at $150 and a***d (94) won the phone for the minimum bid, $2.50, over a***u (368)'s final bid.
That minimum bidding technique is nothing more than someone trying to expose the bid placed by another buyer and allows the multiple buyer to either expose the high bid or stop bidding when the amount they last entered was the maximum they would want to spend for the item.
Nothing strange or "illegal" about it, just the way some buyers choose to bid.
(PS: this does not rule out shill bidding, the seller having a second account or a friend, to bid the item up to a selling price the seller finds acceptable, and that is frowned upon by eBay but hard to expose or prove - a buyer with a feedback rating of 1 might indicate a shill account)
May I join in Benny? I think I might have your twin.
Price was $42 ish. Needs to be made more shiny... :)
@FABphones - I was watching that one on eBay and am glad that one of us on the forum got it.
Please post more photos when it arrives.
:)
Thanks. Will do. :)
It just about sneaks into my theme of 'Monochrome Phones with Sepia Tones'. :D
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Fab!
I think you found my phone's long lost cousin!
Can't wait to see pics after you give it some TLC....
This came from COT
Quote from: rdelius on October 10, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
This came from COT
Thought so. I was waiting for your confirmation.
Quote from: rdelius on October 10, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
This came from COT
I thought it might. :)
What do I have please, AE dial, AE handset, repro brass base?
I thought so as well....
The base is a reproduction WE base and bottom cover. The handset is an AE type 41 with custom brass rings added. Dial is AE, Cradle is off an ATEA set (belgium AE). The base is solid brass it will polish nicely.Cradle is plated so be carefull. I might have built that set. I do not remember what they sold for but they usually sell for over $100.00
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Again I will say, that combination of parts made a very handsome phone. Can't wait to see it all polished up. Just be sure not to be aggressive on the plated cradle.
Quote from: rdelius on October 10, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
The base is a reproduction WE base and bottom cover. The handset is an AE type 41 with custom brass rings added. Dial is AE, Cradle is off an ATEA set (belgium AE). The base is solid brass it will polish nicely.Cradle is plated so be carefull. I might have built that set. I do not remember what they sold for but they usually sell for over $100.00
Thanks for the info. :D This one was $42 ish so I did well then. :)
Quote from: Pourme on October 10, 2018, 06:43:57 PM
...Just be sure not to be aggressive on the plated cradle.
Thanks guys, I will be very careful of the cradle.
This phone will fit nicely into my newly forming 'shinies' display. :)
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"A collector of Black, Ivory, Grey & Shines" ?
Quote from: Pourme on October 10, 2018, 07:55:58 PM
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"A collector of Black, Ivory, Grey & Shines" ?
Don't forget the Duck.
One more thing. Some were built with AE mini networks and others wired in series. Some with crummy buzzers,others with an electronic ringer.
Quote from: rdelius on October 10, 2018, 08:50:17 PM
One more thing. Some were built with AE mini networks and others wired in series. Some with crummy buzzers,others with an electronic ringer.
Was the difference based on price or time frame?
Different prices based on features
Quote from: rdelius on October 10, 2018, 09:37:35 PM
Different prices based on features
Do you have any of the old catalogs or price lists for their products? It would be good info to have available.
JMO,
Jim S.
Did not save any catalogs. Possibly that the chicago old telephone website might be cashed in the internet wayback site.
Quote from: Pourme on October 10, 2018, 07:55:58 PM
"A collector of Black, Ivory, Grey & Shines" ?
8)
Quote from: Jim S. on October 10, 2018, 08:44:25 PM
Don't forget the Duck.
Ahhh nooo, you can't forget the Duck! ;D
I ask visitors who are allowed to view the phones to point to their 3 favourites. Mr Duck, without exception, is always one of them. :D
I would never forget the Duck....
The Duck rules.....Does the ringer go....QUACK!! QUACK!!! ??
(please say yes)
Quote from: Pourme on October 11, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
I would never forget the Duck....
The Duck rules.....Does the ringer go....QUACK!! QUACK!!! ??
(please say yes)
Yes, I'm afraid it does. Quite loudly. And with every quack the eyes light up and flash too (red).
If I film it
ringing quacking, will this site accept it as an attachment I wonder.... :)
Someone may be able to tell you if and how to embed a video in the site. The way I do it when needed, is to post it on You Tube and link it.
If you don't have a You Tube account, you really should have one.
Congrats FAB for joining the shiny phone club :) can't wait to see your phone with some TLC.
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Have you received your shiny yet, Fab?
Aw, thanks for asking :) It has arrived, but I am not there to open the box.
I have a backlog going back quite a few weeks - some spares I really could do with right now, some GPO phones plus a dozen or so U.S. and Canadian phones all waiting for me.
I will post a photo asap. :D
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Well....sounds like you have quite a treat waiting on you!....Can't wait to see your bounty!
The shiny has arrived. :)
Haven't had a chance to take a proper look at it yet but it has a nice tidy Ivory handset. Am looking forward to getting the polish out to see how well this comes up. :D
do not polish the cradle the plating might wear through and it might be lacquered also
Glad to see it has arrived! Reminds me of my shiny! Looking forward to more pics!
As advised, no polish on the cradle. I just swiftly added a touch of gleam with a soft cloth. Came up well.
I did this one by hand. On the body I first used Brasso, then my favourite - Autosol (Chrome and Metal polish).
Polishing Paste #5 on the handset.
'Before' pic three posts above ^
Very pleased. That's quite some reflection of the handset. :)
That turned out better than I expected it to. Very nice looking telephone.
JMO,
Jim S.
That looks really nice, Fab! You should be pleased and proud!
Good job!
Outanding results Fab. Great job.