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Telephone Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: FABphones on November 12, 2018, 01:36:53 PM

Title: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 12, 2018, 01:36:53 PM
Sometimes it is hard to keep within my self made boundary of a black, ivory, colour scheme. I know exactly mostly what I'm passing up, but if I don't collect it, I don't collect it.  :-\

I've let some nice phones pass me by lately, but never brown bakelite before. This only $28.

:-[
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: dsk on November 12, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
For me it looks like a Siemens before w48 since the handset are so "flat"
dsk
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 12, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: FABphones on November 12, 2018, 01:36:53 PM
Sometimes it is hard to keep within my self made boundary of a black, ivory, colour scheme. I know exactly what I'm passing up, but if I don't collect it, I don't collect it.  :-\

I've let some nice phones pass me by lately, but never brown bakelite before. This only $28.

:-[
That is cool. I have seen them on ebay in the past. I like all the buttons and the swirl pattern. That is a great price.
It might be worth buying it for resell.
JMO,
Jim S.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 12, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
Wrong colour for my collection.... I'm very firm with myself about my collected colour scheme.
...although it could sneak in under 'sepia'...  8)

Looks great in its other photos too.  :-\

Quote from: Jim Stettler on November 12, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
It might be worth buying it for resell.
JMO,
Jim S.

Am very very tempted..... That Walnut Burr effect will polish up so nicely.  :)

Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 12, 2018, 03:28:25 PM
It does look 'sepia'. If you bought it, you could enter it into the find of the month.
JMO,
Jim S.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: RB on November 12, 2018, 05:40:01 PM
That is a great price! I would buy it, but that's just me... :)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Pourme on November 13, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
With a little clean up that phone would be striking....I think you should go for it...figure out where it fits later! ;)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 13, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
I've seen several of these in black, never in Burr Walnut. Interesting that the fingerwheel matches. Nice touch.
Dial dates from early/mid 60's and matching in colour as it does, I would say is original to the phone.

Ecouter still on the back (again, matching), many of these go missing, and often the hook breaks away. That ecouter is yelling out 'polish me'.  ;D

I've decided!  ;)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: 19and41 on November 13, 2018, 03:12:03 PM
I like the looks of "burled" bakelite.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 13, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: FABphones on November 13, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
g),

I've decided!  ;)
It will look nice in the sepia collection.
JMO,
Jim S.
Don't forget the find of the month.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: oldguy on November 14, 2018, 01:43:11 AM
I don't think I could pass up that phone for the price.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: ..... on November 14, 2018, 05:59:40 AM
I'm sure that phone would look good my collection even if it isn't from North America. :)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 15, 2018, 05:22:57 AM
Early start to the day today. Got it! 25€ (approximately £22, Canadian dollar $37, US dollar $28).

Even nicer than the pics. Lovely smooth Bakelite finish that I think will clean up beautifully. Not a spot of paint to be seen.

Covered in thick dust and quite grubby. All levers in good condition (these are often the first part to break), they will need attention as a few are stiff. Nicotine crust to mouthpiece, endcaps refuse to move. Dial turns but is a tad slow.

Apart from some fraying to cable around mouse hole, all cables original and in good condition. Metal terminal box still attached.

Pleased to find no damage to any part of the phone.

Lots to do today so I can allocate some uninterrupted time to this phone. Will update with pics.

Thanks all. Am pleased I got this.  :)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: ..... on November 15, 2018, 07:31:59 AM
Quote from: FABphones on November 15, 2018, 05:22:57 AM
Early start to the day today. Got it! 25€ (approximately £22, Canadian dollar $37, US dollar $28).

Even nicer than the pics. Lovely smooth Bakelite finish that I think will clean up beautifully. Not a spot of paint to be seen.

Covered in thick dust and quite grubby. All levers in good condition (these are often the first part to break), they will need attention as a few are stiff. Nicotine crust to mouthpiece, endcaps refuse to move. Dial turns but is a tad slow.

Apart from some fraying to cable around mouse hole, all cables original and in good condition. Metal terminal box still attached.

Pleased to find no damage to any part of the phone.

Lots to do today so I can allocate some uninterrupted time to this phone. Will update with pics.

Thanks all. Am pleased I got this.  :)

Awesome, It should look great all cleaned up and in your collection. It never hurts to keep an open mind.
It's like getting an ugly dog. it's not about how he looks but rather how he makes you feel. LOL

Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Pourme on November 15, 2018, 08:52:53 AM
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Good for you, Fab...

When you perform your magic on that burled brown finish, it will be stunning!

Can't wait to see the results....
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 20, 2018, 06:40:02 AM
Thanks all.  :)

Am just finishing up working on the inside of this phone.

It is put together in a strange way. All of the exterior screws e.g. rear listener hook, front card slip holders, have double functions and also hold some of the internals in place. And those levers are on a rod and slide around. Not an easy phone to take apart/reassemble.  :(    But have cleaned it out, lubricated accordingly, and the levers now move without stiffness. Getting a high shine is next on the agenda. It's looking promising.

Photos will follow soon.  :D
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 26, 2018, 08:28:27 AM
Quote from: Pourme on November 15, 2018, 08:52:53 AM
When you perform your magic on that burled brown finish, it will be stunning!

Can't wait to see the results....

Thank you.  :)

Here it is. I still don't have any special lighting - but I did find a desk light and turn it on!   ;D

I've tried to take same angle photos and added them below as side by side 'before and after' pics.

Internally it remains all original. Thankfully it hadn't been messed around with and just needed a clean up and a little lubrication. I added the two missing ext cards and gave them each a plastic protective slide over cover (as they would have had originally). The frayed line cord has been fed carefully back inside the body and secured with its original metal retainer.

The colour of the Bakelite in my pics looks fairly accurate on my screen, the yellow has photo'd up somewhat vibrant. It's not quite so florescent to the naked eye.  8)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Pourme on November 26, 2018, 08:42:46 AM
Beautiful! I knew that phone would clean up well. You did a wonderful job. It looks very nice!
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: ..... on November 26, 2018, 08:43:23 AM
Great job, very nice addition to your collection.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: 19and41 on November 26, 2018, 09:31:07 AM
Really nice!
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: tubaman on November 26, 2018, 10:48:04 AM
Good job! 
I know that mottled brown isn't your usual colour, so if it needs a new home...... ;)
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Pourme on November 26, 2018, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: tubaman on November 26, 2018, 10:48:04 AM
Good job! 
I know that mottled brown isn't your usual colour, so if it needs a new home...... ;)

I might could be convinced to find it a place in my collection as well!
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: HarrySmith on November 26, 2018, 03:24:14 PM
Nice! Looks great!
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Doug Rose on November 26, 2018, 05:52:03 PM
CJ....this is the picture that really shows off the brown color. You did a wonderful job....Doug
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 26, 2018, 06:52:30 PM
The color difference is amazing.
Now you just need to decide whether to keep it or sell it  for some phone  money.
In your position,  I would probably keep it and enjoy it for at least 6-12 months . Then sell or trade it to get more  mono-chromatic telephones.
JMO,
Jim S.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 26, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
Thanks everyone. It means a lot to me if you think it's turned out well.

Working on it millimetre by millimetre I didn't notice just how much the depth of colour had changed. Not until I compared the photos. It's nice to see it shine and get some deep reflection in the gloss.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 26, 2018, 08:17:57 PM
Quote from: FABphones on November 26, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
Thanks everyone. It means a lot to me if you think it's turned out well.
You got a great deal. Without doing anything you were already value ahead.
By taking the time to restore it you have added value and preserved a historical artifact. When you decide to sell it, you will (at min) be around  $100-200 USD ahead of the game, plus you got practice and satisfaction of bringing a phone back to it's original glory. Not a bad deal for $28.00 .
JMO,
Jim S.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: Butch Harlow on November 26, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
That is definitely a dramatic transformation. It was so dull and dusty looking, now it has depth and radiance. It's a real keeper for sure. Just pretend it's dark ivory.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: oldguy on November 27, 2018, 12:15:32 AM
WOW, I would consider expanding the colors of my collection if I were you. That is mow a beautiful phone. Even if you only add it for a while, then sell it. Great job.
Title: Re: Brown Bakelite $28
Post by: FABphones on November 28, 2018, 04:03:28 PM
Thank you.  :)

Photo with baseplate removed and photo of wiring diagram: HZ 0154.

Prior to looking inside one of these I always thought they needed a 'cupboard' elsewhere with everything needed to make it function. Now, with the info given to me by Mr F who has also taken a look inside, we can see it is PMBX, and very similar to an old GPO 'Crocodile' HES.