"The phone is a remarkably complex, simple device, and very rarely ever needs repairs, once you fix them." - Dan/Panther
Started by unbeldi, January 10, 2017, 12:06:11 PM
Quote from: AE_Collector on January 10, 2017, 12:51:07 PMGood project Unbeldi! This should eventually provide one method to somewhat narrow down the manufacture date of any particular example of an AE40 or AE50 as well as other AE models in the same timeframe as long as the phone has an intact Patent label.Good idea to keep it separate from the Base Code discussions as well since it isn't directly related to the base codes. I have always had a very poor understanding of these labels on AE phones and I have paid little attention to the actual patents.To help me understand, there is only the one label/ink stamp with form number D-780504 used on these phones but there are different "issue numbers" , for example the -A19 extension? I thought I saw a couple of references to a D-780503 label in the AE Base Code discussion and I meant to ask if that was a typo or not. Most often this label is a gold water transfer type label but both paper labels and ink stamp labels are also possible.With regards to each -Axx extension, the exact same patent numbers will always be on any one particular example, say the -A19 extension for example? Your chart records each patent that is on each of the different D-780504 -Axx labels. Thus in my Excel list of Base Codes I really only need to record that "label extension" number. I think you said that somewhere already...just making certain.I will be happy to look for labels that aren't on your chart as well as the ones that are on your chart but with missing patent info. I can send it to you or post it here for you to add to your chart.Terry
Quote from: AE_Collector on January 10, 2017, 02:03:13 PMWith Automatic a Electric, if there is just an occasional "oddity" in something we should probably consider ourselves lucky!I can't recall where I got the info about the Chicago -> Chicago 7 change. I wrote the info down when I heard it somewhere possibly on one of "the lists". It was the year (1943) that the Chicago Post Office introduced Postal Stations or whatever they are called in the USA so all existing mailing addresses had a digit added after Chicago. I thought this would be fairly easy to Google but I must be using the wrong terminology as I can't find any reference online at the moment. Terry
Quote from: AE_Collector on January 10, 2017, 05:09:30 PMHere is the A46 label supplied by Stub from his AE L4111 47 set.
Quote from: unbeldi on January 10, 2017, 06:29:22 PMJust like WECo, AE must have been under order to not produce telephones starting in 1942, at least not for civilian use.
Quote from: Jack Ryan on January 10, 2017, 07:07:41 PMDepends how you look at it I suppose. Civilian manufacturing continued but the equipment was exported.Jack
Quote from: unbeldi on January 10, 2017, 08:26:42 PMI don't think so. The war need was probably very small compared to the normal production and might have been filled in a few months time.By the time WECo was authorized again to produce telephones, they did not have the manufacturing capability to produce even a few ten thousand sets that were authorized, and had to purchase a factory to restart manufacturing. The equipment from that factory was later moved back to Hawthorn once space was made available once again.