Help with a Kellogg Subset

[Doug Rose]

This looks a lot like a WE 334A, but it latches on the top. Very cool with exposed gongs on the top.

I am trying to get it to ring but I am have trouble finding L1. L2 is there but no L1. Any ideas?....many thanks....Doug

[tubaman]

To just get it to ring you need the capacitor in series with the bell coils. ie L1 > Cap 1, and then Cap2 > Coil 1, and Coil 2 > L2. If that makes sense.

[Doug Rose]

It does make sense, I just cannot find L1

[tubaman]

It does make sense, I just cannot find L1

It should be on the side of the capacitor that isn't connected to the coils.

[Doug Rose]

I must be missing something....Doug

[tubaman]

Can't see where the wires go in the photos, but one wire from the capacitor at the bottom should go to one of the connection points (L1 or L2) - it might go via an induction coil connection.
The other side of the capacitor should go the one side of the bell coils - again maybe via the induction coil.
The other side of the coils should go to a connection point (L2 or L1).

This all assumes no one else has messed with the wiring in the past (a big assumption).
I think it's time to get out your multimeter.

[stub]

Doug,
          Here's all I could find . stub

[tubaman]

Believe your subset should be wired as per this diagram. The bell will be connected to L1 and C.

[Doug Rose]

thanks guys...I will give it a shot....Doug

[RB]

Try this

[Doug Rose]

Believe your subset should be wired as per this diagram. The bell will be connected to L1 and C.

We have success off of Tubaman's idea as I do not have everything that this schematic has.

I did Connect L1 (found it) and C to Bell and the clapper moved, but nothing. This must be a frequency ringer.

I took the Gong assembly apart and moved the posts closer to the clapper and with some adjustments it rings pleasantly. Now I have to get the screws back in the posts as they are now not aligned properly.

I am close, thanks to all for their help and opinions....Doug

[dsk]

I guess you are right about that ringer. I do not believe they used a spring instead of a hinged hammer on straight line ringers before th 500 type ringers became standard. I'm sure somebody her knows, so we not have to only guess   

You are always getting your phones looking almost like new! 

[Doug Rose]

I guess you are right about that ringer. I do not believe they used a spring instead of a hinged hammer on straight line ringers before th 500 type ringers became standard. I'm sure somebody her knows, so we not have to only guess   

You are always getting your phones looking almost like new! 

thanks Dag...I do appreciate it.....Doug

[HowardPgh]

The ringer pictured is a frequency ringer. Kellogg straight  line ringers look almost like WE ringers with a central pivot point and bias spring.  I think you can use that subset with a sidetone WE stick.

[Doug Rose]

Howard....it is a frequency ringer, but I was able to move the posts to get a very pleasant ring...Doug

"I did Connect L1 (found it) and C to Bell and the clapper moved, but nothing. This must be a frequency ringer."