WE C1 from Ebay--good deal?

[WEBellSystemChristian]

I found this one on ebay, and I had to snap it up! It looks like it's in bare-bones condition; just the skeleton, hookswitch and switchhook. While they aren't incredibly rare, they are definitely much harder to find than a regular G1 Spacesaver.

Did I get it for a good price?   ( $12.99 plus $8 shipping )

www.ebay.com/itm/221830347243

[NorthernElectric]

I have no idea if that's a good price, but I'd pay 13 bucks for that.  Looks like all you need is an E1 handset, a suitable subset, handset and mounting cords, a wall bracket, and you're good to go with a manual set.  I wonder how tough it would be to find dial mounting parts for it?

[WesternElectricBen]

My only concern would be finding a original wall bracket. It's just one of those things where there are more phones than there are brackets remaining. Although, it could be easily made out of wood. If you cannot find one, I can fabricate one in my workshop.

Ben

[unbeldi]

Usually one can find a complete unit for much less than the parts are going to cost.

[WEBellSystemChristian]

Usually one can find a complete unit for much less than the parts are going to cost.

Well, I already have a complete E1 handset and plenty more parts for them, cloth repro cords (not preferred, but real ones could cost very little), and several WE crank subsets. I'm pretty much set when it comes to extra parts.

[ESalter]

You'll find the most difficult part to locate are the 8-36 screws that hold the mounting bracket to the side of the phone.

---Eric

[Sargeguy]

I bought a complete one w E-1 handset and bracket for $75, and re-sold it for about the same price. 

[NorthernElectric]

I have just seen one of these for sale with subset, which leads me to wonder if these are sidetone,  anti-sidetone, or could be either.  It looks like 4 hookswitch contacts in Christian's photo so that would make it anti-sidetone, correct?

[unbeldi]

I have just seen one of these for sale with subset, which leads me to wonder if these are sidetone,  anti-sidetone, or could be either.  It looks like 4 hookswitch contacts in Christian's photo so that would make it anti-sidetone, correct?

It can be either.  C1 handset mountings were available starting ca. 1928, same time the B-type desk set was introduced.  Until ca. 1930/1 these were always sidetone instruments.  First they were simply called C1 telephones, and when the anti-sidetone (AST) circuits were introduced the old sidetone instruments became known as the 101-type telephone.  The upgrade to AST did not require additional switches, just as a B1 and D1 can be used for either.  As an AST instrument, the telephone became known as a 201-type telephone, adding 100 to the model number, as usual.

As the D-type handset mounting was introduced in 1930, After the D-type handset mounting (1930), they also introduced a new hangup-type in ca. 1936, replacing the C1 with the G1 handset mounting, probably one of the longest manufactured telephone types, I believe, well into the 1960s—what is the latest observed?

[poplar1]

I have just seen one of these for sale with subset, which leads me to wonder if these are sidetone,  anti-sidetone, or could be either.  It looks like 4 hookswitch contacts in Christian's photo so that would make it anti-sidetone, correct?

It can be either.  C1 handset mountings were available starting ca. 1928, same time the B-type desk set was introduced.  Until ca. 1930/1 these were always sidetone instruments.  First they were simply called C1 telephones, and when the anti-sidetone (AST) circuits were introduced the old sidetone instruments became known as the 101-type telephone.  The upgrade to AST did not require additional switches, just as a B1 and D1 can be used for either.  As an AST instrument, the telephone became known as a 201-type telephone, adding 100 to the model number, as usual.

As the D-type handset mounting was introduced in 1930, they also introduced a new hangup-type, replacing the C1 with the G1 handset mounting, probably one of the longest manufactured telephone types, I believe, well into the 1960s—what is the latest observed?

C-type handset mountings were made until at least II 35.
G-type mountings were introduced in 1936, originally with E1E handsets. They were made until at least 1976.

[unbeldi]

C-type handset mountings were made until at least II 35.
G-type mountings were introduced in 1936, originally with E1E handsets. They were made until at least 1976.

Oops, yes, of course, we had established that at least once here.

The first BSP was likely Section C32.104, Issue 1, 1936-09-15.

C1s were still in the 1935 catalog.

[NorthernElectric]

Thanks.  I will see if I can get the seller to take some internal photos of the subset.

[unbeldi]

Here is a component breakdown of the C1 from the 1935 catalog.