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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: deedubya3800 on October 11, 2010, 10:19:13 PM

Title: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 11, 2010, 10:19:13 PM
Big in price - they're regular-sized sets.

This red one from 1949 just sold for $393.00:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220679644042

Okay, I'm fine with that, but this 1953 ivory just sold for $510.99:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130439741984
What the #@%$&??? :o
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: baldopeacock on October 11, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
That's big money for an ivory 302.    I'd have thought the red would get closer to $500, the ivory maybe $200 or so.
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 12:05:35 AM
Yeah, four bills for an EXQUISITE, to quote the listing, red 302 doesn't surprise me. And except for the top two bidders, the ivory would've sold for two. Thing is, neither of those top two bidders appears to be a newbie, so they must've spotted the solid gold ringer gongs that I missed.
Either way, I'm glad I got my 1942 ivory for $315. 8)
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Jim Stettler on October 12, 2010, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 12:05:35 AM

Either way, I'm glad I got my 1942 ivory for $315. 8)

And yours has a much nicer handset.

Jim
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Kenny C on October 12, 2010, 12:15:39 AM
when did you get an ivory?
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 01:02:24 AM
I wasn't going to announce it yet since I don't have its display ready and haven't officially made it part of my collection yet, but I had to make mention of it seeing what this one sold for. It arrove Tuesday. I don't have the item number handy, but search for the word ROTOARY and you're sure to find it. :P

It's all March 1942, the case being dated the 23rd, except for the handset and straight cloth cords which are '41. I'll post pictures once I can borrow a decent camera, and we can discuss the differences between it and my black '54 and the precautions I took to avoid trying to eat it. ;D
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Kenny C on October 12, 2010, 01:06:56 AM
congratulations!!!!
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Jim Stettler on October 12, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
Item # 250701691254

Brushed Finger wheel and matching plungers. Nice phone, your avatar doesn't do it justice.

Jim
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Kenny C on October 12, 2010, 01:09:58 AM
HOLY COW thats is bright
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Jim Stettler on October 12, 2010, 01:12:12 AM
Here is a thread about early color 302's
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2950.msg39771#msg39771

Reply #5 is some info I got from Jon Kolger. He has been collecting early color sets for a very long time.

There is a lot of good info throughout the thread.
Jim
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Kenny C on October 12, 2010, 01:13:08 AM
Peking red is my favorite 302 i love the boldness
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
Quote from: Jim S. on October 12, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
Item # 250701691254

Brushed Finger wheel and matching plungers. Nice phone, your avatar doesn't do it justice.

Jim

Thanks! :) And I'll redo my avatar once I make new pictures of it.

Quote from: Kennyc1955 on October 12, 2010, 01:13:08 AM
Peking red is my favorite 302 i love the boldness

And I love ivory because it looks like white chocolate, hence the need to ensure I don't try to eat it. :D
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: cchaven on October 12, 2010, 05:08:20 AM
I gave about $125 a few years ago for my 1951 Ivory and it's a lot less discolored than that one.  I think it was a case of two people wanting it and putting in extremely large bids to ensure they did..not planning on someone else doing the same thing. I'd imagine someone wasn't too happy with how far things were pushed after it was all said and done.

Jeff
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 06:31:16 AM
Yep, I bet they both sniped it, neither one of them aware of the other's intent. I bet the seller, on the other hand, is giddy as a schoolgirl right now. Maybe I should be glad my seller couldn't spell too well, or mine might have sold to someone else for nearly that amount! ;D
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: baldopeacock on October 12, 2010, 08:12:57 AM
Another member here has both a '41 Ivory as well as an early 50s version.

There seems to be a bit of difference in the early color - it *appears* to be a little darker, richer, yellower, whatever you want to call it, compared to the early 50s version.   The '50's version looks almost white by comparison.   

It's not surface yellowing, either.   Put the two phones side by side and the difference is pretty obvious.   If it is the result of aging of that early catalin plastic, it goes all the way through.

Deedubya, if you acquire a later Ivory set, and you notice that same color variance after you've done surface restoration of the plastic, would you mention it?  Meanwhile, congrats.   Those pre-war sets are very cool and definitely the less-common.
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: Sargeguy on October 12, 2010, 04:11:29 PM
A nice Ivory outsells a pristine Pekin Red?  What is the world coming to!
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 12, 2010, 06:15:57 PM
Quote from: baldopeacock on October 12, 2010, 08:12:57 AM
Deedubya, if you acquire a later Ivory set, and you notice that same color variance after you've done surface restoration of the plastic, would you mention it?  Meanwhile, congrats.   Those pre-war sets are very cool and definitely the less-common.

If I do, and I hope I do someday, I will. And thanks! :) I figured they were, which is why I had to jump at the chance to own it.

And back to the topic, I looked at the bid history, and both of those top bids for the ivory were placed at the same exact time, three seconds before auction close, by two big-time telephone collectors who are both accustomed to winning virtually everything they want.

Both the 1953 ivory and the 1949 red had a lot of the same bidders. They were both sniped in the last three or four seconds by someone who had not bid earlier. The winner of neither had bid on the other, but the second-highest bidder of each was third-highest on the other. Had the winner in each auction not placed that winning bid, the ivory would have sold for $204.99 and the red would have sold for $304.99. Like we've said before, all it takes is that one other person who really wants it more than anyone else. 8)

Have I mentioned how much I love eBay? :D
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 13, 2010, 07:52:46 PM
Somebody really loves red. The same person who won the red 302 just won another one for $305. That's $698 for two red 302s. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330481490524 ( dead link 04-13-21 )
Title: Re: Two really big 302s just ended.
Post by: deedubya3800 on October 24, 2010, 07:35:27 PM
And then this ivory 302 just sold for $79?! Someone should have waited a couple weeks and they might have gotten a much better price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140467190422 ( dead link 04-13-21 )