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Title: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 05, 2011, 02:20:20 PM
Not as much as phones, but I do love to tinker with old Clocks. This is a GE with Beautiful wood, I love the different directions the wood flows. This guy was in tough shape, scrathes everywhere and a terrible finish. The cord worn and breaking. New cord and Howard's neautral retorafinish, the fountain of youth for wood. Works like a champ and chimes on the hour. This is really sharp looking.....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 05, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Doug,

That's a beautiful clock.  It looks like a Telechron Strike model from the late 1930s.  I have a number of GE/Telechron clocks as well as come Hammonds, Westclox, and others.  If the movement is clean and lubricated, it will run for decades.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 05, 2011, 03:00:20 PM
Thanks Larry...as you know Telechron and GE were almost the same Company as GE backed Telechron until they finally took it over and changed to GE. I have a few Telechron's around the house. Made next town over to me in tiny Ashland MA, clocks are their claim to fame. This runs silently and is keeping perfect time. The chime is very cool. On old clock for a $10 bill is hard to pass up. Howard's made this like new again. I had a good Flea Market/Antique Stores day yesterday. Downside, I was up at 4AM and not home until 10 PM. We went to Maine to visit Jan's Dad and made a lot of stops before and with him.....long day...good finds.........Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 05, 2011, 03:08:46 PM
I could be out from 4AM on the 1st of Jan until 10PM on the 31st of Dec, and I wouldn't find that many things.  I have a Telechron Strike, 'Minstrel'
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clocks/TelechronMinstrel/TelechronMinstrel.jpg)
which I found at a local thrift store for $8, but that was the only find I have ever had of that type.  It was in pathetic looking condition when I bought it, but after a new cord, alot of cleaning, and plenty of wood scratch cover and polish, and it looks presentable.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 05, 2011, 04:00:48 PM
Larry...more than presentable, looks beautiful. I found a Seth Thomas that looks very similar to yours on Saturday. Ran for three days keeping perfect time and chimed on 1/4 1/2 and full hour and then just died! Can't figure it out...Doug


http://tinyurl.com/3pkba59
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: rp2813 on September 05, 2011, 11:54:45 PM
Doug, what is the model number on that handsome clock?  I am looking for something of that vintage and size.

Here's a model 4F61 "Pharaoh" that I recently picked up for $6, on my bench prior to dis-assembly for repair and cleaning/polishing.  The rotor was frozen but I was able to revive it without much effort.   I gently cleaned dial, hands & glass and hit the case with some Old English Scratch Cover and the clock is keeping time beautifully and quietly again.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 06, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
Quote from: rp2813 on September 05, 2011, 11:54:45 PM
Doug, what is the model number on that handsome clock?  I am looking for something of that vintage and size.

Here's a model 4F61 "Pharaoh" that I recently picked up for $6, on my bench prior to dis-assembly for repair and cleaning/polishing.  The rotor was frozen but I was able to revive it without much effort.   I gently cleaned dial, hands & glass and hit the case with some Old English Scratch Cover and the clock is keeping time beautifully and quietly again.
This is all I could find on the Seth Thomas....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 06, 2011, 07:45:34 AM
Doug,

I believe that your ST clock has the same movement as mine.
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clock.jpg)
The Sangamo motors in these are very difficult to replace.  Nobody sells new replacements.  Does your motor work?

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 06, 2011, 07:48:53 AM
I just looked at your ebay pictures, and I see that the wires from the power connector are not connected to the motor.  It will certainly not run without power.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 06, 2011, 07:53:49 AM
Larry....Check it again, what is disconnected is the original cord that would plug into the back of the clock. A new cord is attached directly to the movement and it was working for almost three days...thanks...Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 06, 2011, 07:57:47 AM
Does the new cord run through a hole in the bottom of the clock?  From the pictures, I thought that the cord, with a connector, was simple lying on the table near the clock.  I think that potential buyers will be confused by that.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: rp2813 on September 06, 2011, 02:36:27 PM
Hey Doug,

I thought that first clock pictured was a GE.  That's the one I'm interested in getting the model number from.

Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 06, 2011, 03:15:45 PM
Doug's clock looks like a model 6B10.  Look st: http://www.telechron.net/waryears/6b10.htm (http://www.telechron.net/waryears/6b10.htm).

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: rp2813 on September 06, 2011, 05:18:54 PM
Thanks Larry.  I picked up a 3H07 as a gift for a friend but it's kind of small.  I think the 6B10 would be a nice size.  It will be used on top of an older but modern looking upright piano.  I'll have to start looking for a 6B10 or similar style.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bigdaddylove on September 06, 2011, 06:12:53 PM
I do!
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 06, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
I think mine is the 4H12 The Candlelight. I had the 6B10 The Hearth which had a black bakelite around the bottom a few years ago. It went in a phone trade as I remember....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 06, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
According to the telechron.net site, the 4H12 is not a chiming clock.  The 6B10 is the strike version.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: rp2813 on September 06, 2011, 11:16:04 PM
4H12 works for me!  I know just enough about Telechron/GE clocks to be dangerous and was concerned that the 6B10 might not use an H type rotor.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bill on September 07, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
Old clocks? This one is a bit different. It is a long-case clock, made in the late 1700s in England. Believe it or not, my wife and I picked it out of snowbank in Nashua, New Hampshire, on a cold January midnight in about 1985, just a few hours before the trash truck would have taken it away. The owners - people we knew, as it turned out - bought it in an antique shop in London in the 1950s and brought it home. However, they were unable to keep it running, got disgusted, and tossed it. At the time, one of my friends was a skilled mechanical engineer who volunteered to look it over - and it has run ever since, chimes and all.

It needs some case work that I will probably never do. But it is fun!

Bill
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on September 07, 2011, 12:22:03 PM
Bill....wonderful clock....great story. Sometimes the story behind the item as as important as the item itself. What a marvelous find!...Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bigdaddylove on September 07, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Wow, you mid-west and east cost folk seem to find all the goodies! Why can't I find stuff like that on the west coast?

I need some peanut butter 'cause I'm hella jelly!  ;D Great find and story, Bill.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 07, 2011, 11:06:54 PM
There isn't all that much in the mid-west.  Most of the good antiques are in Mass. and Maine.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: rp2813 on September 12, 2011, 11:26:45 PM
I just won one of these on ebay over the weekend.  The Picardy, model 6B05.  It measures about 12" across.  It keeps time and the striker mechanism also works, although in the poorly designed and hopelessly flawed way that nearly all older Telechron striker mechanisms do:  Always one strike short of the actual hour.  There is no easy or proven fix, so I may disable the striker.  
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 13, 2011, 12:26:33 AM
Very nice 1930s clock!  It's easy to become addicted to Telechron clocks, Hammonds as well. These clocks use the B rotors.  Replacement refurbished B rotors run about $90, so you want to keep the movement clean and oiled.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bakerbrett741 on September 21, 2011, 11:55:45 AM
Ronson touch tip lighter with small watch face
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bakerbrett741 on September 21, 2011, 12:07:06 PM
I don't own this as it has a price of 550.00 I can't afford that rite now. I love clocks you don't have to put a battery in
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: benhutcherson on September 25, 2011, 01:04:25 PM
I'm not a clock guy, although I am a proud member of the NAWCC as well  as a couple of different NAWCC chapters(Kentucky Thoroughbreds ch. 140, Early American Watch Club ch. 149).

I do, however, have a couple of decent clocks-a Seth Thomas 30 hour Ogee from the 1860s that stays within a minute as long as I can remember to wind it, and a couple of 8 day time strikes in various styles.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on October 02, 2011, 08:00:52 AM
I have decided to sell this beauty as we just have no room for it. My loss is your gain.....Doug

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300605783947
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 20, 2011, 01:04:13 PM
I picked up this clock at the flea market this week.  

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clocks/Telechron8B05/Front.jpg)
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clocks/Telechron8B05/LeftSide.jpg)

It is a Telechron 8B05, which is supposedly rather rare and valuable.  The clock is about 6.5" tall and made of ivory Plaskon, which is in mostly excellent condition.  It was reportedly made between 1934 and 1936.  The rotor was stuck when I got it, but I cut it open and cleaned it.  I cleaned and oiled everything as needed and replaced the missing light bulb and cord, and the clock is running well now.  I saw that one of these in worse condition sold on ebay a few months ago for $311.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: jsowers on December 20, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
Larry, that Plaskon Telechron clock is in such pristine condition. I don't doubt your figure on how much it's worth. Radios from that era made of Plaskon are out of sight. The light part intrigues me, and I hope you replaced the light with the same type and not something hotter, because I would worry about the plastic melting from the heat. If you can leave the light turned off, that might be better on the 75-year-old plastic. That thing must've sat in a box most of its life to be that nice.

What is the dial that's set on 50? Is that a thermometer or something else?
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 20, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
The bulb is powered by a separate winding on the clock's coil.  I measured the output at around 2.9V (I think).  I bought a bulb which is supposedly rated for 3.47V (if it was in the correct bin) at a hardware store.  The bulb base is much longer than the socket so it sticks out quite a bit.  It does not feel hot.  The piece which holds the bulb socket is stamped "Use GE No. 41 Mazda".  I do not know what the ratings were for a GE no 41 bulb.

The dial below the time display displays seconds.  It turns continuously and is numbered from 5 to 60.  It had alot of sticky black oil on it, and unfortunately, in the process of trying to clean off the oil, I managed to rub off some of the "50" and "55" and second markings in that area.

For the looks of the mechanical parts, I would guess that this clock has seen many years of operation.  The shaft of the rotor was originally threaded to screw into a gear, but the threading had been scraped off by pliers, so it is now super glued to the gear (Don't tell anyone).

The top piece of the clock is a lid which flips open to allow the time to be set.  There are a couple of dark spots on the lid and one corner is warped upward a bit as can be seen in the upper left of the first picture.  I expect to be able to bleach out the spots with hair peroxide when I have time and either sunshine or a UV light.


Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: jsowers on December 20, 2011, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on December 20, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
For the looks of the mechanical parts, I would guess that this clock has seen many years of operation.  The shaft of the rotor was originally threaded to screw into a gear, but the threading had been scraped off by pliers, so it is now super glued to the gear (Don't tell anyone).

Larry, I need to get you to fix the Telechron timer clock in my mom's 1953 GE stove. It hasn't worked since before I was born. I don't think Super Glue was even on the market when I took that clock out and looked at the problem. A large gear that's joined to a smaller gear just slips, or that was my diagnosis about 25 years ago. The separate 60-minute timer in that stove still works. I had to replace the rotor in it 25 years ago and clean the contacts. I think by now mom is used to the clock not working, so never mind.  :) I would be kind of afraid to set a 59-year-old stove to time bake.

Here is a link to what a #41 lamp is. You were close on the voltage and using a slightly higher voltage lamp may actually make it burn a little cooler, which would be preferable.

http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page/001/PROD/MiniAll/41 (http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page/001/PROD/MiniAll/41)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 20, 2011, 08:21:49 PM
Jonathan,

Send the clock over and I will take a look at it.  Telechron clocks were really made well and are usually repairable.

I didn't realize that the light bulb numbers were standard and not a 75 year old GE thing.  The bulb I bought has "40 China" on it.  The next time that I order radio parts, I will have to add a few #41 bulbs to the order.

BTW, I do have an ivory Plaskon 1946 "Frog-Eye" Setchell-Carlson radio in excellent condition.  It was quite cheap (about $23 plus shipping).


Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on December 22, 2011, 09:11:49 PM
Beautiful clock, that telechron ivory "digital readout".I love telechrons.

 I bought this one at an antique store for $16 and found out it is worth about $700. It is a telechron electrolarm 700 skyscraper  in the rare plasticon green color. All working, including light and bell. It is the FIRST electric alarm clock ever made, from 1927.

(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/dvortv/001-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 22, 2011, 11:50:11 PM
Nice clock, Dan!

The seller at the flea market who sold me the 8B05 also had a green Electrolarm, and I regret not buying it.  The plastic was in pretty good shape, but it was missing the glass and much of the trim.  He had it marked $95 or something like that but probably would have sold it for less.

BTW, there was a brief period of sunshine this morning, and I managed to bleach out most of the dark splotches on the top with hair peroxide and sunlight by the window.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2011, 12:51:48 AM
Thanks.I restored the trim myself and novus 2 works well on these too!

They only made brown (common about 15,000) and 2500 white and green combined, and I hear only 500 or so green exist. I wish you would have bought it. It is the rarest of the telechron skyscrapers
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2011, 01:04:04 AM
Here's a Hammond self starter that the antique dealer thought was broke and sold "as is" because when you plug it in  it doesn't work (you have to spin start the electric motor in the back for it to turn on) . Cool clock, it takes about two hours from 1150-150 for the day and date to turn over to the next day. Very art deco and very cool and a little understated next to the electrolarm but it runs perfectly quietly. Haven't had time to "novus 2 " this one yet. This dates to 1930. love it, these guys go for around $150-300.

(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/dvortv/001-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2011, 01:27:30 AM
One last one, another telechron electrolarm, in the more common brown (I need a white to complete the set). I love deco. Paid more for this one, but I couldn't resist.

(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt253/dvortv/002-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Kenny C on December 23, 2011, 02:12:35 AM
I love your clocks Dan.

I have a GE debutante and it sounds like a coffee grinder. It keeps time perfectly but is a little loud for a nightstand. Any tips on quieting it down?
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bingster on December 23, 2011, 02:49:38 AM
If it's a Telechron-type GE (with the little window/red flag at the top), the noise is the rotor.  When they make noise like that, the rotor has to be replaced with a quiet one, or it has to be cut open, cleaned, oiled, and re-sealed.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Correct advice for Kenny sir! I have been lucky in that I haven't had to service any of mine yet. I try to find an outlet to test them first.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 23, 2011, 09:50:34 AM
QuoteThey only made brown (common about 15,000) and 2500 white and green combined, and I hear only 500 or so green exist. I wish you would have bought it. It is the rarest of the telechron skyscrapers

If I had known that, I certainly would have bought it.  Oh well :(

I do have a black Hammond "skyscraper" which I bought last summer at an antiques shop in Chicago for $22 (plus the 10.75% sales tax!).  The bakelite has some damage, and I managed to ruin the face a bit while trying to clean off dirt and grease.

I have had success with some Telechron H type rotors adding oil by dropping a bit at a time into the area around the shaft.  Each application of oil takes a few hours to sink into the rotor.  After the oil has been added, the rotor needs to be left in various positions, and/or shaken, to allow the oil to distribute.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bingster on December 23, 2011, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: Dan on December 23, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Correct advice for Kenny sir! I have been lucky in that I haven't had to service any of mine yet. I try to find an outlet to test them first.

I've never been brave enough to do it, myself.  When I run into a noisy rotor, I buy junk Telechrons until I find one with a quiet rotor that I can use as a replacement. ;D
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bill on December 24, 2011, 01:38:26 PM
In the collector world of old radios, old clock radios sometimes show up with the "won't run" or "noisy" problems mentioned above. The first solution in that community is to turn the radio upside down and let the clock run for a week. Surprisingly often, this will redistribute the lube that has settled in the bottom of the case. No further steps necessary.

If that doesn't work, the next solution is to drill a very small hole in the back of the metal case, trying not to let the chips drop inside (though if a chip does get inside, it will settle to the bottom). Then use a hypodermic to put a small amount of clock oil through the hole, and close up the hole. The old radio guys usually solder it shut, but if you don't solder, a small careful smear of epoxy should do as well.

Maybe these thoughts will help?

Bill
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2012, 10:03:44 AM
Looks like my green skyscraper may be a little better than I thought...... Mine is better than this one!

http://tinyurl.com/6uo4jmf
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on January 03, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
I saw that yesterday when it was at $818.  I could kill myself for passing on the one at the flea market >:(

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: bingster on January 03, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
Yours is much better than that, Dan.  That one's missing all it's trim except for the two thin strips at the sides.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2012, 08:59:56 PM
Wow I would love to trade it on an oxford gray mushroom or a blue 302 (or both!)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Yogisd1 on January 16, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
This one is my favorite. I got it for Christmas years ago. Don't know who makes it, but it was made in '53.(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/Yogisd1/clock2_zps15f418a9.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on January 16, 2013, 08:12:36 AM
Quote from: Yogisd1 on January 16, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
This one is my favorite. I got it for Christmas years ago. Don't know who makes it, but it was made in '53.(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/Yogisd1/clock2_zps15f418a9.jpg)

That's a Jefferson Golden Hour clock, made by Jefferson Electric in Bellwood, IL (just west of Chicago).  This model was made from around 1949-1991.  Here is a web page with alot of information: link (http://www.roger-russell.com/jeffers/jefhour.htm).

Although these clocks are not rare, they are in high demand, and working ones rarely sell for less than $60.


Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Yogisd1 on January 17, 2013, 05:03:26 AM
Thanks for the info, I appreciate that. There is a lot of interesting info at that web site. Very good reference material there.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: southernphoneman on March 24, 2013, 10:34:54 AM
i like old clocks. in the photos below are two antiques that are my parents  the first one is a porcelin clock from the early 20th century. this clock was my grandmothers and was passed on to my father. the second is a neat old wall clock that a chime on the hour and on the half hour. i will post another later.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: southernphoneman on March 24, 2013, 02:23:50 PM
i posted a photo of this vintage mantle clock before but mistakenly deleted it. it was my granmothers and was made by general electric.it still works also :)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on March 24, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Not me! Well, I like the ones from 50'-70's.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: southernphoneman on March 26, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
this is not really a vintage clock but it is still cool. this clock has a swinging pendulum and it hangs in my living room.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on April 18, 2013, 02:11:32 PM
Clocks are not my thing, but i Could not be anything but happy when I was asked if I wanted this BÜRK Clock. It was found when cleaning out at the school were I teach. The clock is the old master clock, and was also controlling the ringing for start and end of lessons. I'm not sure of the age but my guess will be about 50 years.

The suspension spring was defect, so I have got a replacement, not the right one, but it seems to work.
The original documentation claims an accuracy of +/- 0.7 sec pr day. I hope to I will be able to come close to that.

The mechanical clock has an electric rewind, this makes it having a mechanical backup of 12 hrs, and when power comes back it sends minute pulses accumulated to correct the electric slave clocks. Every pair minutes get a positive pulse, and every odd minute get a negative pulse.

And  :D my teenager son says it looks completely modern  ;D

dsk
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Keith.p on April 18, 2013, 07:40:56 PM
I'm not a clock collector, but I do like clocks, I have mostly mantle clocks and some others e.g. Junghans, Cuckoo's and case clocks.
Basically pickup what I like and can afford and fix the basics.

A cheap smiths windup I got last week.

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc170/keithpizey/IMG_0255_zps299b912f.jpg) (http://s218.photobucket.com/user/keithpizey/media/IMG_0255_zps299b912f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: AE40FAN on May 14, 2013, 09:39:12 PM
Mid-Century Welby 8 day key wind up.  Absolutely stunning wall clock and It's going to look fantastic above my television...
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Dixon Hall on May 14, 2013, 11:16:36 PM
Quote from: Bill on September 07, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
Old clocks? This one is a bit different. It is a long-case clock, made in the late 1700s in England. Believe it or not, my wife and I picked it out of snowbank in Nashua, New Hampshire, on a cold January midnight in about 1985, just a few hours before the trash truck would have taken it away. The owners - people we knew, as it turned out - bought it in an antique shop in London in the 1950s and brought it home. However, they were unable to keep it running, got disgusted, and tossed it. At the time, one of my friends was a skilled mechanical engineer who volunteered to look it over - and it has run ever since, chimes and all.

It needs some case work that I will probably never do. But it is fun!

Bill

Magnificent!

Dix
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on June 19, 2013, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: dsk on April 18, 2013, 02:11:32 PM
Clocks are not my thing, but i Could not be anything but happy when I was asked if I wanted this BÜRK Clock. It was found when cleaning out at the school were I teach. The clock is the old master clock, and was also controlling the ringing for start and end of lessons. I'm not sure of the age but my guess will be about 50 years.

The suspension spring was defect, so I have got a replacement, not the right one, but it seems to work.
The original documentation claims an accuracy of +/- 0.7 sec pr day. I hope to I will be able to come close to that.

The mechanical clock has an electric rewind, this makes it having a mechanical backup of 12 hrs, and when power comes back it sends minute pulses accumulated to correct the electric slave clocks. Every pair minutes get a positive pulse, and every odd minute get a negative pulse.

And  :D my teenager son says it looks completely modern  ;D

dsk

3 weeks, and jut 4 sec wrong!   :D

dsk
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on June 19, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
Still clocks are not my thing... but...
I couldn't resist a $50 clock on a local market.
I have to learn a little more about how they works.
A little oil, and tuning, and the clock is quite stable. About 1 min wrong pr week is ok.
The case got some treatment with some simple bi-wax, Iodine, and linseed oil. Smells horrible for a week, but it looks great.

Dating of the clock: December 1928!

Maybe I should change to clocks, much more for a little money.  ???

dsk
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: DavePEI on June 19, 2013, 03:44:05 PM
Quote from: dsk on June 19, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
Still clocks are not my thing... but...
I couldn't resist a $50 clock on a local market.
I have to learn a little more about how they works.
A little oil, and tuning, and the clock is quite stable. About 1 min wrong pr week is ok.
The case got some treatment with some simple bi-wax, Iodine, and linseed oil. Smells horrible for a week, but it looks great.

Dating of the clock: December 1928!

Maybe I should change to clocks, much more for a little money.  ???

dsk

My grandmother used to swear by putting a open small dish of Kerosene in the bottom of old mechanical clocks - it would slowly evaporate and lubricate the mechanism. She was told this by an old swiss clockmaker in our home town. Have one of hers which has had this treatment for at least 60 years, and which still runs. Its original maker had dated the inside to something like 1787 under the movement in pencil.

Dave
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on June 19, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
If that really works, the clock makers has earned big money of telling about the demand of oiling every 2nd. or 3rd. year  :D

dsk
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on December 12, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
I don't collect clocks but I was given a really nice clock/lamp years ago by the same person who gave me the WE D1 202.  It's a Telechron Litemaster Executor table clock/lamp, I believe from the 50s.  It works perfectly but the paint is scraped in a couple of spots, it's missing one of its feet and the inside of the glass on the clock needs a good cleaning.

Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on December 12, 2013, 11:51:12 AM
A very nice clock Bridget ;)..the most collected are Westclox.. in America . the other brands are collected too ..I don't learn your something :D
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on March 01, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: dsk on June 19, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
Still clocks are not my thing... but...
I couldn't resist a $50 clock on a local market.
I have to learn a little more about how they works.
A little oil, and tuning, and the clock is quite stable. About 1 min wrong pr week is OK.
The case got some treatment with some simple bi-wax, Iodine, and linseed oil. Smells horrible for a week, but it looks great.

Dating of the clock: December 1928!

Maybe I should change to clocks, much more for a little money.  ???

dsk


During summer, this clock was moved to our cabin, were it fits perfect.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: dsk on March 01, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: dsk on April 18, 2013, 02:11:32 PM
Clocks are not my thing, but i Could not be anything but happy when I was asked if I wanted this BÜRK Clock. It was found when cleaning out at the school were I teach. The clock is the old master clock, and was also controlling the ringing for start and end of lessons. I'm not sure of the age but my guess will be about 50 years.

The suspension spring was defect, so I have got a replacement, not the right one, but it seems to work.
The original documentation claims an accuracy of +/- 0.7 sec pr day. I hope to I will be able to come close to that.

The mechanical clock has an electric rewind, this makes it having a mechanical backup of 12 hrs, and when power comes back it sends minute pulses accumulated to correct the electric slave clocks. Every pair minutes get a positive pulse, and every odd minute get a negative pulse.

And  :D my teenager son says it looks completely modern  ;D

dsk
I guess I reached that goal. 15 sec wrong pr month!
dsk
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on March 01, 2014, 02:47:39 PM
Nice clock, and a very nice view!

Ben
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 27, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
Okay, I said a few months back when I posted the photos of my Litemaster Telechron lamp/clock that I don't collect clocks, but I guess now I DO, cos I just bought another one  :)   Over the weekend I got a gorgeous Telechron Airlux (from the 40s or 50s) from a seller on Kijiji.  It's in really good condition - just needs a polish - and keeps perfect time. The alarm doesn't work, which doesn't bother me as I'm using it as a mantle clock.  I love this clock!  Apparently the Airlux has the distinction of being the only Telechron clock to have depreciated in value.  The bloke who runs the telechron.net website thinks it's not worth over $15.  I don't know why; it's a beautiful piece of artwork.  In any event, I paid $25 for it and judging by the prices being asked on ebay and etsy as well as the shipping costs, I'd say I got a bargain.


I'm on the lookout now for a Telechron War Alarm #1 for my bedside table.


Am thinking it seems to be cheaper to collect clocks then telephones  :-\
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: AE40FAN on March 27, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
I also like the look of the "Airlux".  I have  a few Telechrons .  My favorite is the Pharaoh. 
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 27, 2014, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Contempra on December 12, 2013, 11:51:12 AM
A very nice clock Bridget ;)..the most collected are Westclox.. in America . the other brands are collected too ..I don't learn your something :D

Thank you.  Not a bad clock/lamp for free, eh? :)  I haven't really looked at many vintage clocks although I'm starting to take a real interest in them now. 
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 27, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: AE40FAN on March 27, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
I also like the look of the "Airlux".  I have  a few Telechrons .  My favorite is the Pharaoh. 


The Pharaoh is a stunner.  Do you favour the pre-war or post-war look?  It's too bad modern-day companies don't put the same amount of thought and energy into quality and style.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 27, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
The Telechron Airlux is a very nice model, but it is not worth much because there are so many of them in existence.  Many of the ones I see for sale have scratches in the acrylic case, and they are a pain to sand.  The plastic emits nauseating fumes when sanded.  I think that I paid about $11 plus shipping for mine.  $25 without no shipping cost is a very good deal, especially in Canada.

Another very common Telechron model which is not worth much because it is so common is the Selector.

Be careful with clock collecting.  It can be as addictive as phone collecting.  I lost count of my Telechrons somewhere past 100  :)

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 28, 2014, 06:04:47 AM
Oh yikes, I didn't know about the fumes, thanks for letting me know about that.  The lucite is in really good shape, with just a bit of crazing on the bottom right corner by the brass foot.  It looks like someone had put sticky stuff on the bottom too but that will would be easy to remove.  I was debating whether or not to sand the crazing but after your remark about the fumes, I think I'll leave it alone :)

100 Telechrons!?  Have you got photos of your collection?  I'd love to see them.

Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 27, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
The Telechron Airlux is a very nice model, but it is not worth much because there are so many of them in existence.  Many of the ones I see for sale have scratches in the acrylic case, and they are a pain to sand.  The plastic emits nauseating fumes when sanded.  I think that I paid about $11 plus shipping for mine.  $25 without no shipping cost is a very good deal, especially in Canada.

Another very common Telechron model which is not worth much because it is so common is the Selector.

Be careful with clock collecting.  It can be as addictive as phone collecting.  I lost count of my Telechrons somewhere past 100  :)

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: winkydink on March 28, 2014, 09:21:03 AM
My favorite would be the Telechron Smug (bird novelty clock of the 1930's)

I went on a clock binge last year and restored over a dozen of these beauties (and then gifted them away at Christmas so I am left with only 1 right now)

I also always like the Pharaoh.  Here is an example of a restored pre and post war models of the Pharaoh (models 4F61 and 3H151 respectively)

Telechron made some great clocks !
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 28, 2014, 09:39:27 AM
Quote from: Bridie on March 28, 2014, 06:04:47 AM
100 Telechrons!?  Have you got photos of your collection?  I'd love to see them.

I had posted some pictures here: forum link (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=10930.0).  I recently added a couple of shelves.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: AE40FAN on March 28, 2014, 11:53:45 AM
I prefer the pre-pharaoh for obvious reasons.  It is larger and has the inlaid wood detail.  I love telechrons!  I just wish I could restore them.  Every telechron I own I cannot get the darn knobs off to remove the case.  I know they are reverse threaded.  WinkyDink I may be interested in your restoration services one day!
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: winkydink on March 28, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: AE40FAN on March 28, 2014, 11:53:45 AM
Every telechron I own I cannot get the darn knobs off to remove the case.  I know they are reverse threaded.  WinkyDink I may be interested in your restoration services one day!

This is something that I think I can assist you with, as I have had my share of stubborn knobs.

First apply a drop of liquid wrench or some other rust loosening oil to the top of the knob so it goes on both the knob and the stem from above.  Let it sit for at least 10-15 minutes.

Now using needle nose pliers, grip the stem with one set of pliers and grip the knob with a second set of pliers, and try turning the knob clockwise.  You can use a thin (& small) piece of leather or other material to try to protect the knob and stem from the pliers if you wish.

If that doesn't work (and you can give it several tries with the liquid wrench), you can move to heat.

Using a pencil soldering iron, heat the knob (not the stem) for several seconds.  Carefully but quickly put the iron down (don't burn yourself or your work area) and then use the pliers method described above (griping stem and turning clockwise).

Both methods have worked for me, though at times [with several clocks] is seemed like they (the knobs) were never coming off.

Take a look at the following discussion regarding one of the first clocks I restored.  It talks about removing the knobs, amongst other things.

http://telechron.net/galvanic/index.php?topic=2332.0
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 28, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
Not all of the knobs are reverse-threaded.  On most of the 1930s models, the time setting knob is reverse-threaded, and the alarm setting knob is normally threaded.  During the 1940s, the design of the movement gradually changed, and the time setting knobs were normally threaded.  On at least some of the later models, the alarm setting knob was reverse-threaded.  A good rule of thumb is that the time setting knob unscrews when turned in the direction which moves the hands backwards, and the alarm setting knob unscrews when turned in the direction which moves the alarm hand forward in time.  Unscrewing the knobs can be a real challenge, and the backs many clocks bear the scars of attempts to grab the stems with pliers.

There is a very nice Telechron collectors' form at: http://telechron.net/galvanic (http://telechron.net/galvanic).


Larry

Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on June 26, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
I picked up two Telechron clocks on Fathers Day Weekend when I went to Maine to visit Jan's Dad. 

The beauty is  Bakelite Telechron with a striker. This clock was filthy when I bought it. It works perfectly and chimes on the hour and once on the half. NO chips cracks or missing pieces. As I'm cleaning of the grime I channeled my late father, "Jesus Christ." Someone  scratched in serial numbers on the back. Well at least its the back.

Jesus H Christ!!! The H was when he was really mad. Why? Someone  scratched in serial numbers on the front. Why??? This clock is in just amazing condition. Does anyone have an answer why this was done. You really can't see it unless you re right on the clock.  WHY???....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on June 26, 2014, 10:21:49 AM
Here is the seond Telechron, Bakelite as well with the great moving cubes. A couple of stress cracks, hard to spot, but really. Cool! So far it is keeping great time....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: poplar1 on June 26, 2014, 11:18:48 AM
I think that's a Social Security number. People used to use an engraving tool to put their Social Security number on things thinking that would prevent theft or help identify the owner if the item turned up in a pawn shop. Nowadays, the opposite is true: people worry their identity will be stolen if someone knows their Social Security number.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on June 26, 2014, 11:27:48 AM
David....makes sense. I think the back was more than enough!!!

Both clocks keeping time....Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on June 26, 2014, 11:54:47 AM
Those Telechrons are both beautiful models.  The 6B11 Angelus is dated 1939-42.  I have non-strike version, 4H93.  Whoever engraved the front of yours must have been insane.  The 8B07 Baron is dated 1936-39.  It is a highly prized model and usually goes for $80+.  I have two of the similar but more common 8B11 Granadas.  These clocks should really be properly cleaned and oiled before being used.  Also, the cord and coil should be checked to make sure that they are safe.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Doug Rose on June 26, 2014, 12:04:51 PM
thanks Larry....I really appreciate the information. ...Doug
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: AE40FAN on June 26, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
I love telechrons!  The 2nd one with the flip numbers usually sell between 125-175 on Ebay.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on December 03, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Wow, I missed some great posts and photos here since originally posting. Thanks for sharing your photos guys.  Larry, I was happy to stumble upon the Telechron forum about a week or so ago.  I've been referring to the website for awhile but somehow missed seeing the forum til recently.  I just bought two more Telechrons: 1 7H89 "The Guest" (http://www.telechron.net/waryears/7h89.htm) and a 7H125 "The Dispatcher" (http://www.telechron.net/waryears/7h125.htm), both of which need substantial work.  I'm putting them away for a couple of months til I get all my other projects - including restoring two 1930s mogul lamps - finished.  It's a drag that Telechrons are so few and far between here in Canada.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: JimH on December 04, 2014, 01:10:45 AM
I have a Telechron Baron.  I bought it on ebay several years ago, I think I paid about $80 for it.  It works perfectly.  I can't believe how accurate it is.  My only concern is that it is safe.  I'm afraid to leave it plugged in continuously. There is a "serviced" date of 1959 on the inside.  I have read threads of collector clubs that say you should convert to low voltage.  Others say a GFCI outlet will help. I really don't want to modify it, and I'd really love to have it plugged in all of the time.  Any thoughts or experience on this?

Jim
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 04, 2014, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: JimH on December 04, 2014, 01:10:45 AM
I have a Telechron Baron.  I bought it on ebay several years ago, I think I paid about $80 for it.  It works perfectly.  I can't believe how accurate it is.  My only concern is that it is safe.  I'm afraid to leave it plugged in continuously. There is a "serviced" date of 1959 on the inside.  I have read threads of collector clubs that say you should convert to low voltage.  Others say a GFCI outlet will help. I really don't want to modify it, and I'd really love to have it plugged in all of the time.  Any thoughts or experience on this?

Jim

I don't think that most collectors worry about the safety of old electric clocks as long as there is no apparent wear or damage.  One should certainly visually inspect the plug, cord, and connections to the coil and also check to make sure that the coil is not excessively hot after being powered for an hour or so.  I do always warn people though that it is not a good idea to run a clock this old for a long period of time unless the movement has been properly cleaned and oiled.  The old oil is usually dirty and sticky, and the parts do not move freely, so the motor has to work extra hard.  This results in excessive wear and eventually failure of the mechanical parts.

I have a number of 1930s-40s electric clocks running around my house, including Telechron, Hammond, and other.

BTW, it looks like you got a reasonable deal on that clock.  That model rarely sells for cheap.  A similar model, The Grenada, sells for less.  I had two but gave one to a friend who keeps it running on his desk.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: JimH on December 04, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Thanks, Larry.  I had it plugged in for a few months straight a couple of years ago, and it was fine.  It does not get hot.  I checked the cord and plug and connections and I don't see any issues. 
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 04, 2014, 11:01:50 AM
Quote from: JimH on December 04, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Thanks, Larry.  I had it plugged in for a few months straight a couple of years ago, and it was fine.  It does not get hot.  I checked the cord and plug and connections and I don't see any issues. 

I have bought many clocks which came with dangerously worn/cracked cords and plenty which had badly connected replacement cords.  Some could have potentially electrocuted anyone touching the clock.  I therefore always look before plugging in anything.

I have probably mentioned this before, but there is a very helpful forum for Telechron collectors at: telechron.net/galvanic/ (http://telechron.net/galvanic/).  There are at least a few members of this forum who also post on that one.

Be warned that clock collecting can be as addictive as phone collecting.  Don't even mention radio collecting.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Tim Mc on December 06, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
I've worked on a few clocks between other projects and so far have resisted further addiction.  This Dr Pepper Swihart got a new motor and cord and hangs in the home office.  It's just crusty enough to show its age, but displays well.  A couple of LED nightlight bulbs and bulb socket reducers keep it lit 'round the clock (pun intended) for only a couple of watts.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on December 06, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Quote from: Tim Mc on December 06, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
I've worked on a few clocks between other projects and so far have resisted further addiction.  This Dr Pepper Swihart got a new motor and cord and hangs in the home office.  It's just crusty enough to show its age, but displays well.  A couple of LED nightlight bulbs and bulb socket reducers keep it lit 'round the clock (pun intended) for only a couple of watts.

Nice clock Tim. I have few ones..the most part are branded Westclox.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
So envious of the Telechrons!  This is the last Telechron I've bought.  The Organizer was manufactured from 1932-1938. This is a timer, and would turn on a radio plugged into the back at a pre-set time.  It is in perfect physical condition (apart from needing a cleaning)! I was extremely lucky to find it on ebay listed by a seller right here in my province.  I paid only CAD $24 shipping included!  It seems to work perfectly but I need to give it a good cleaning and oiling before running it for an extended period of time.  This is by far my favourite so far.

Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
So envious of the Telechrons!  This is the last Telechron I've bought.  The Organizer was manufactured from 1932-1938. This is a timer, and would turn on a radio plugged into the back at a pre-set time.  It is in perfect physical condition (apart from needing a cleaning)! I was extremely lucky to find it on ebay listed by a seller right here in my province.  I paid only CAD $24 shipping included!  It seems to work perfectly but I need to give it a good cleaning and oiling before running it for an extended period of time.  This is by far my favourite so far.

Bridget,

It looks like you got a good deal on that clock.  Now you have to get the rest of the Telechron radio timer clocks :).   I see what looks like the remnants of a CSA sticker on the back of your clock which would indicate that it was originally sold in Canada.  Telechron did assemble at least some clocks in Canada with different model numbers, but perhaps not these models.  I have a Canadian Telechron 20H2, which is a 2H02 Epicure, hanging on my kitchen wall now.

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clocks/Telechron20H2OnWall_zpsu9c8ewo7.jpg)
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/LarryinMichigan/Clocks/Telechron20H2Back_zpspsyxg4kx.jpg)

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 10:20:16 AM
It looks like you got a good deal on that clock.  Now you have to get the rest of the Telechron radio timer clocks :) .   I see what looks like the remnants of a CSA sticker on the back of your clock which would indicate that it was originally sold in Canada.  Telechron did assemble at least some clocks in Canada with different model numbers, but perhaps not these models.  I have a Canadian Telechron 20H2, which is a 2H02 Epicure, hanging on my kitchen wall now.

Larry

Yeah no joke, I seriously will have to collect the rest of the timer clocks :)  I doubt I'd be lucky enough to get as good a deal as I got on the Organizer; that was a rare occurrence.  Would love to get my hands on the Controlla!  Your wall clock is absolutely lovely, and goes perfectly with the wallpaper.  You need to collect them in every colour! :D
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 10:20:16 AM
It looks like you got a good deal on that clock.  Now you have to get the rest of the Telechron radio timer clocks :) .   I see what looks like the remnants of a CSA sticker on the back of your clock which would indicate that it was originally sold in Canada.  Telechron did assemble at least some clocks in Canada with different model numbers, but perhaps not these models.  I have a Canadian Telechron 20H2, which is a 2H02 Epicure, hanging on my kitchen wall now.

Larry

Yeah no joke, I seriously will have to collect the rest of the timer clocks :)  I doubt I'd be lucky enough to get as good a deal as I got on the Organizer; that was a rare occurrence.  Would love to get my hands on the Controlla!  Your wall clock is absolutely lovely, and goes perfectly with the wallpaper.  You need to collect them in every colour! :D

The easiest one to get is the 8H55 Selector.  They are everywhere.  They should not have to cost more than about $18 before shipping.  I know that shipping almost anything to Canada is insanely expensive.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
The easiest one to get is the 8H55 Selector.  They are everywhere.  They should not have to cost more than about $18 before shipping.  I know that shipping almost anything to Canada is insanely expensive.
Larry

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.  The Telechron website says this of the Selector:  "Don't pay alot for this clock.  Another will be for sale any minute now...." :)
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on March 31, 2015, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: Bridie on March 31, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
So envious of the Telechrons!  This is the last Telechron I've bought.  The Organizer was manufactured from 1932-1938. This is a timer, and would turn on a radio plugged into the back at a pre-set time.  It is in perfect physical condition (apart from needing a cleaning)! I was extremely lucky to find it on ebay listed by a seller right here in my province.  I paid only CAD $24 shipping included!  It seems to work perfectly but I need to give it a good cleaning and oiling before running it for an extended period of time.  This is by far my favourite so far.



Use only clock oil and no watch oil.....don't use something with teflon or WD-40...
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
The top cause of dial damage on these clocks is over-oiling. The oil leaks out onto the dial and ruins it.

Larry

Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on March 31, 2015, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 31, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
The top cause of dial damage on these clocks is over-oiling. The oil leaks out onto the dial and ruins it.

Larry

Exact Larry and that is the samething for the watches.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: Contempra on March 31, 2015, 01:52:05 PM

Use only clock oil and no watch oil.....don't use something with teflon or WD-40...

Absolutely.  I tracked down a shop here in Halifax that sells clock oil.  They also repair and restore clocks.  I've been trying to get in there to pick up some oil but we've had one storm after another the past couple of months.  I had to unplug my Airlux on the mantle, as I was concerned it might be running dry. :(
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: Contempra on March 31, 2015, 01:52:05 PM

Use only clock oil and no watch oil.....don't use something with teflon or WD-40...

Absolutely.  I tracked down a shop here in Halifax that sells clock oil.  They also repair and restore clocks.  I've been trying to get in there to pick up some oil but we've had one storm after another the past couple of months.  I had to unplug my Airlux on the mantle, as I was concerned it might be running dry. :(

I understand.. i have an old electric westclox and I didn't pay attention. using the oil for watch is not good and unfortunately i need a motor for it :(
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 09:02:09 PM
Quote from: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 08:49:25 PM

I understand.. i have an old electric westclox and I didn't pay attention. using the oil for watch is not good and unfortunately i need a motor for it :(

Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that :(  Westclox are lovely.  I have a Moonbeam but unfortunately it took a tumble a couple of weeks ago :( I don't even know if it worked to begin with, since the cord was in such bad shape I hadn't tested it since buying it.  What model is your Westclox?
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 09:02:09 PM
Quote from: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 08:49:25 PM

I understand.. i have an old electric westclox and I didn't pay attention. using the oil for watch is not good and unfortunately i need a motor for it :(

Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that :(  Westclox are lovely.  I have a Moonbeam but unfortunately it took a tumble a couple of weeks ago :( I don't even know if it worked to begin with, since the cord was in such bad shape I hadn't tested it since buying it.  What model is your Westclox?


a Westclox Greenwich model S7-G 115 Volts A.C  60 CY 25 Watts...I saw many moonbeam and they are beautiful.....
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 10:02:12 PM

a Westclox Greenwich model S7-G 115 Volts A.C  60 CY 25 Watts...I saw many moonbeam and they are beautiful.....
The Greenwich is a stunner!  I love the dial font.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on April 02, 2015, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: Bridie on April 01, 2015, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: Contempra on April 01, 2015, 10:02:12 PM

a Westclox Greenwich model S7-G 115 Volts A.C  60 CY 25 Watts...I saw many moonbeam and they are beautiful.....
The Greenwich is a stunner!  I love the dial font.

Thank you Bridie.. I saw a motor for mine a year ago but was too expensive.. but i keep my westclox and I hope to find a motor one day ;). have a great day Bridie.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: 19and41 on April 07, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
You folks have spurred me into getting another collectible.  I just won a telechron alarm with the 2" thick square lucite body with brass feet.  I just hope I can make the lucite look like something with the surface fissuring that the older acrylic plastics get.  Their gentle steady motion have always been so pleasant to watch.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on April 07, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: 19and41 on April 07, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
You folks have spurred me into getting another collectible.  I just won a telechron alarm with the 2" thick square lucite body with brass feet.  I just hope I can make the lucite look like something with the surface fissuring that the older acrylic plastics get.  Their gentle steady motion have always been so pleasant to watch.

A light fissure is easy to be repaired.. However a telechron is a quality clock...Pictures will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: LarryInMichigan on April 08, 2015, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: 19and41 on April 07, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
You folks have spurred me into getting another collectible.  I just won a telechron alarm with the 2" thick square lucite body with brass feet.  I just hope I can make the lucite look like something with the surface fissuring that the older acrylic plastics get.  Their gentle steady motion have always been so pleasant to watch.

That sounds like a Telechron Airlux.  Those are beautiful clocks, and that model is one of the most common Telechrons.  Just be careful or you may find yourself with 200+ clocks like I have.

Larry
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bill on April 08, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
I'm sure that most clock people know that the common Telechron H3 motor is easy to clean and re-lube when the old lube dries out and freezes the rotor. I've done it only once (in other words, I am far from an expert), but it wasn't hard, and took only an hour or so. By the way, I tried several other "fool-proof" methods first. Drill-and-fill didn't work. Drip-around-the-output-gear-shaft didn't either. Heat, immerse, and cool didn't work. But disassembly was easy. I worked from a post by henny on Feb 01, 2014 on the Telechron forum telechron.net.

So don't wait for a cheap one to show up, or buy a new one - they can be expensive! More info re my experience on request.

Bill
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Bridie on April 08, 2015, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on April 08, 2015, 08:53:51 AM

That sounds like a Telechron Airlux.  Those are beautiful clocks, and that model is one of the most common Telechrons.  Just be careful or you may find yourself with 200+ clocks like I have.

Larry

The Airlux is gorgeous.  I can't make up my mind if it's unfortunate that I live in Canada and have no access to the wealth of reasonably-priced Telechrons there in the US or....I'm fortunate I don't have access to them and therefore can't fill my apartment with Telechrons! :D
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: 19and41 on April 08, 2015, 01:35:34 PM
Just checked, and the letter carrier has it on the truck, so I'll be able to get an idea of it's shape soon.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: 19and41 on April 08, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
Well, out of the box and in front of the camera..  There is fissuring in the areas exposed to the heat of operation.  there is about a 1/8th of an inch layer of haze along the top.  The alarm set doesn't seem to operate the alarm hand.  There are no chunks missing from it though.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: Contempra on April 08, 2015, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: 19and41 on April 08, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
Well, out of the box and in front of the camera..  There is fissuring in the areas exposed to the heat of operation.  there is about a 1/8th of an inch layer of haze along the top.  The alarm set doesn't seem to operate the alarm hand.  There are no chunks missing from it though.


I don't know for the fissure but probably needs a good cleaning on the movement if the alarm doesn't seem to operate.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: 19and41 on April 08, 2015, 11:12:14 PM
i'll have a look inside shortly.
Title: Re: Who Likes Old Clocks!!!
Post by: 19and41 on April 09, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
The inside doesn't look very bad at all.  The coil looks like it has been warm for a long time, but not burned.  The alarm set shaft passes through to the front of the movement and enters a brass collared gear to engage the set gear.  The shaft rotates in the brass collar and will not rotate it's gear.  Does anyone know how the shaft and collared gear are connected?  Is it a threaded end on the shaft that might be stripped?  The clock runs, sets it's tattle tale when set while running, and the alarm arm operates fine.  The thing looks pretty good on a shelf from about 6 ft. away.