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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 01:10:19 AM

Title: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 01:10:19 AM
OK! you guys.... enclosed is a picture of a Kellogg/ITT phone from the 70's.... so why don't we see more of these.... if they can make a 564 this way, then why isin't more of these showing up??
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
OK, which one of you are throwing money at the ITT/Kellogg 564 clear deskset. it has a date of 1960 and the current bid is $177.00.  the seller is: gantiques and its in the 1940-1969 catagory
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Doug Rose on January 16, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
Hey John....a link would be great....Doug
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on January 16, 2015, 05:42:01 PM
I've always thought that clear phones were more of a novelty item than anything.  People who buy them may have a pot smoking friend they want to freak out.  If not, they may just like to see how it works without taking it apart.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
I didn't even know ITT made the 564 in clear... after all, its a business phone... seeing it on ebay is cool.... someone wants it bad enough to pay top dollar.... anyone know if W.E. ever offered this series in a clear format?
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on January 16, 2015, 06:56:54 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/171641085564
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Doug Rose on January 16, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
thanks Christian...I couldn't find it. A link is so easy when you are looking at it....Doug
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Doug Rose on January 16, 2015, 07:28:17 PM
Quote from: andre_janew on January 16, 2015, 05:42:01 PM
I've always thought that clear phones were more of a novelty item than anything.  People who buy them may have a pot smoking friend they want to freak out.  If not, they may just like to see how it works without taking it apart.
"A pot smoking friend they want to freak out." Dude?  Really? .....Kidamazed
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 11:21:11 PM
So... how much money are you going to throw at it Doug??
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Doug Rose on January 17, 2015, 07:43:26 AM
John....it's not what I collect, seems perfect for your collection....good luck...Doug
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on January 17, 2015, 12:51:14 PM
Can't you imagine a guy so high he thinks he has x-ray vision and can see through your phone?
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: JimHyak on January 18, 2015, 09:03:36 PM
Lots of us collect transparent phones. I believe they originally were made to check the case design, but I understand the sales folks got ahold of them and used them for displays. There's a sticky on transparents: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.0
Jim
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 19, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
last check on the auction, the high bid is over $200.00! My high bid is $100.00 and no more. if someone wants it worse then me, then so be it.... I think some of these auctions are crazy the way people throw money at the item. 
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on January 19, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
I often find it hard to believe what some people will pay for a telephone.  There are certain types of telephones that are sought after by collectors and, believe it or not, this must be one of them.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: HarrySmith on January 19, 2015, 08:19:06 PM
One question can answer why the price is going up.

When was the last time you saw one of these?

My answer is never. Not in a collection, not at a show, not for sale on eBay or anywhere else!
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: TelePlay on January 19, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
At $220 with 24 hours to go. 7 bidders. This could be a $500 to $600 item, or more.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 19, 2015, 10:56:06 PM
crazy.... just crazy!
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 20, 2015, 11:31:51 PM
the final price: $1146.00! now, which one of you bought it??
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on January 21, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
Wow!  I never expected a phone from the 1970s to bring that much!
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on January 21, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: andre_janew on January 21, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
Wow!  I never expected a phone from the 1970s to bring that much!

I think it's probably early 1960s.  The receiver seems marked 9-60
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: WesternElectricBen on January 21, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
And the button style was discontinued sometime in the 50s. (I think)

Ben
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on January 21, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Maybe the button style is what drove the price up.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on January 21, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on January 21, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
And the button style was discontinued sometime in the 50s. (I think)

Ben

There was some overlap between the small round buttons and the square buttons in the early sixties.  I think I have some small button WECo housings that are dated 1964.  Kellogg was certainly behind in that transition.

However, those '64 dates on housings probably don't indicate that new sets were still made in 64 with small keys. These were replacement housings on sets from 1958 to 1960.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on January 21, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: andre_janew on January 21, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Maybe the button style is what drove the price up.

One just doesn't see clear Kellogg phones that often, but what really drove the price up here was that two bidders wanted the set almost as much, much more than rest of the pack.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Babybearjs on January 21, 2015, 06:31:49 PM
do you think they are part of the TCI group? or a independent collector?
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on January 21, 2015, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: Babybearjs on January 21, 2015, 06:31:49 PM
do you think they are part of the TCI group? or a independent collector?

Hmm, is there such a mafia?
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: AE_Collector on January 21, 2015, 09:43:05 PM
Actually, the bidding seemed quite unusual to me. 12 different Bidders with only 14 total bids. Only two bidders bid more than once, each bidding twice.

The winning bid was the only bid placed by the winner and it was a snipe with 4 seconds to go. I dont have anything to help ID who the winner was.

Terry
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: TelePlay on January 22, 2015, 06:43:45 AM
Quote from: AE_Collector on January 21, 2015, 09:43:05 PM
The winning bid was the only bid placed by the winner and it was a snipe with 4 seconds to go.

That is not unusual. 8 or 9 out of 10 of the past 20 to 30 auction contests had the phone going to a last second snipe that was the winners one and only bid if the auction.
Title: Re: Clear ITT 564 Keyset on eBay
Post by: Jim Stettler on January 31, 2015, 03:34:50 PM
I own 1 of these, so at least 2 were made. My guess  as demo or display models. Kellogg- ITT also made  clear 500 sets.

I suspect every model of WE plastic phones had at least 1 Transparent example made as an engineering model.
I have a transparent smoke tint Trimline housing that I suspect was done as a test run test for new molds.
JMO,
Jim