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Telephone Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:33:59 AM

Title: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:33:59 AM
I few more to check out.
If you know what anything is, let me know!
Thanks!
Mo
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:41:54 AM
more
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:46:10 AM
and more :D
The emery borad reads: Illinois Bell, A good job for a girl.
Mo
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:49:55 AM
More of the candlesticks.
I want to know more about these.
Mo
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
Gamewell Alarm Box - used in cities as a fire alarm. One was located in the center of a neighbourhood, and if a fire occured, the Gamwell would send a unique signal to the fire department identifying itself and its location. Each Gamwell would identify its location using a clockwork mechanism (that is why it reminds you to wind it when the box has been used). These were used before the age where mostly everyone had their own phone.

Photo one in the museum. (Mine was made in 1924 - yours is a newer model).

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 07:26:57 AM
The 325 Call box is a telephone set designed for outdoor use. They were commonly used as police and fire call boxes, and for outdoor courtesy phones. This one dates from the 1930's to 1950's. It consisted of a F1 handset, a 195A condenser, 101A induction coil, a 5H dial, and a R1AL ringer.

Using a 29A bracket, it could be mounted on buildings, fences, poles, etc. as the need arose.

Photos belowt: Top, outside view; Bottom, interior view. This is a 325J, but converted at some time during its life to a 325L with the addition of a dial. Internal wiring is similar to that of a Uniphone #1.

Note the vents at the bottom for the built in ringer.

Photos of one in the museum.

Yours actually is a newer version of the box shown here - yours is based on 500 set components, but served the same purpose.

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 07:31:48 AM
1D2 payphones...

See phone on left below... (Phone on right is an AE.)

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 07:33:28 AM
The bakelite wall -phone appears to be a WE-354.

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 07:36:26 AM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 01:33:59 AM
I few more to check out.
If you know what anything is, let me know!
Thanks!
Mo
First photo, Payphone out of service sign.

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: G-Man on February 26, 2013, 01:33:46 PM
Ahh.... Where to start?

The out of order sign is certainly collectable with most going for a tidy sum.

The single-slot Western Electric payphones are certainly more valuable than most cocot versions.   The two green instruments, especially the rotary dial set should garner much more!

I suspect your Gamewell alarm is worth about $500 or perhaps more but there is a member on the TCI list specializing in them who may be willing to able to offer further information.

All in all, if you attempt to sell these items on the various listserves you most likely will not garner as much as you would by eBaying them.
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: G-Man on February 26, 2013, 01:33:46 PM
I suspect your Gamewell alarm is worth about $500 or perhaps more but there is a member on the TCI list specializing in them who may be willing to able to offer further information.
I would suspect you are correct on the Gamwell, but I was never able to confirm a price on mine despite postings here and on TCI/ATCA. Mine is an earlier version, the Northern Electric manufactured Gamwell 1924 unit.

They are interesting, particularly how they send the signal using the clockwork driven code wheel.  When the alarm has been triggered, before its next use, it had to be re-wound by fire personel before they were closed up again. By use of the inner code wheel, and the signal sent by it, the fire dept could tell which alarm had gone off.

Regarding value of the call box shown above - they do bring a fairly high price - I bought mine back in 2004, so really don't remember how much I paid. Yours is the later version which brings a bit less, but still should bring a good price.

For my 1D2, I paid about $225 landed here (including shipping) about a year ago.

Dave



Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 26, 2013, 03:46:53 PM
A gazillion year ago I used to work for ADT.  They had similar alarm registers in the Central stations.  here is what the Gamewell box talks to:

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pictures-emmaus-fire-alarm-call-boxes-from--001,0,56400.photo

When I was working there the register spit out the tape with a series of dashes,  like:  1-3-6 or 4-2-1 to show what customer on the circuit had the alarm.

Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: DavePEI on February 26, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Quote from: Russ Kirk on February 26, 2013, 03:46:53 PM
A gazillion year ago I used to work for ADT.  They had similar alarm registers in the Central stations.  here is what the Gamewell box talks to:

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pictures-emmaus-fire-alarm-call-boxes-from--001,0,56400.photo

When I was working there the register spit out the tape with a series of dashes,  like:  1-3-6 or 4-2-1 to show what customer on the circuit had the alarm.


Now, I wish I had one of those. But the chances of it happening are next to none. Yes, these printed out the codes selected by the disk in the call box. Mine is a  nice low number - it spits out the single number 4. to the register. But no register here for it.

Some registers are simpler than the one you show, but they all serve the same purpose - to spit out the number corresponding to the box signalling.  

Another similar register with winder....

Dave
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: Dan/Panther on February 26, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
That brass candlestick should bring a few hundred.
It'sd a shame, you aren't as into collecting as most of us are. You have a ready made collection that rivals those that others have taken a life time to accumulate.
If I was you, I'd have to keep it all, or sell it all together. Just to varied of a selection to break up.I think whom ever purchased the Picture phone would make you a great offer, for the rest of the collection.
D/P
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: MagicMo on February 26, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Dan/Panther on February 26, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
That brass candlestick should bring a few hundred.
It'sd a shame, you aren't as into collecting as most of us are. You have a ready made collection that rivals those that others have taken a life time to accumulate.
If I was you, I'd have to keep it all, or sell it all together. Just to varied of a selection to break up.I think whom ever purchased the Picture phone would make you a great offer, for the rest of the collection.
D/P

Dan,
I will keep some pieces that I like but I don't have room for everything. I'm being swallowed up by Ma Bell!
Now, with that being said, I am a phone junkie. I love this stuff, learning about it is fascinating to me: the innovation, the history, the technology etc. I would love to open up a Bell System History "Museum" but my family would think I was crazy.
Mo
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: baldopeacock on February 26, 2013, 10:19:23 PM
That brass candlestick is one of the prettiest I think I've seen.   Not sure I could part with that one!
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: George Knighton on February 27, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: baldopeacock on February 26, 2013, 10:19:23 PM
That brass candlestick is one of the prettiest I think I've seen.   Not sure I could part with that one!

That's what I was thinking.  But I'll be watching, when she does decide to part with it.  :-)
Title: Re: It never ends!! More phones!
Post by: George Knighton on February 27, 2013, 09:18:44 AM
Quote from: Dan/Panther on February 26, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
That brass candlestick should bring a few hundred.
It'sd a shame, you aren't as into collecting as most of us are. You have a ready made collection that rivals those that others have taken a life time to accumulate.
If I was you, I'd have to keep it all, or sell it all together. Just to varied of a selection to break up.I think whom ever purchased the Picture phone would make you a great offer, for the rest of the collection.
D/P

Ready to go museum was in her attic.  :-)