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AE, real or repro?

Started by FABphones, August 23, 2019, 05:29:41 PM

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FABphones

Seller says this is AE and parts of it have been changed out incorrectly.

I can see the end cap on the receiver is wrong (British), cables wrong. The base has been (re)covered in a cord fabric.    Having never actually seen one of these I'm not sure about this.

Opinions please. Real or repro?

These are the best photos I could get today.
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rdelius

Not an AE .Look like it is most likely a WE repro with an AE dial

kleenax

Quote from: FABphones on August 23, 2019, 05:29:41 PM
Seller says this is AE and parts of it have been changed out incorrectly.

I can see the end cap on the receiver is wrong (British), cables wrong. The base has been (re)covered in a cord fabric.    Having never actually seen one of these I'm not sure about this.

Opinions please. Real or repro?

These are the best photos I could get today.

It's a "Franken-Phone"; thrown together with a mix of (mostly) repro parts and MAYBE an original/real stem and/or dial base, but I doubt it.
Ray Kotke
Recumbent Casting, LLC

FABphones

#3
Righty-ho, here is 'Frank' in pieces.

All opinions welcome on whether any of this is real or not, in particular the base, baseplate, and stem.

Thanks!!!!!

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The baseplate and stem...
(Additional photo of writing on reply 6, below)
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FABphones

The transmitter on this is marked STC, but the rest of it (heavy Brass) is unmarked.....  Repro?
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FABphones

The endcap is genuine, British, the rest... Probably Repro.... ?
A collector of  'Monochrome Phones with Sepia Tones'   ...and a Duck!
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FABphones

The last piece, plus additional photo of writing on base.
A collector of  'Monochrome Phones with Sepia Tones'   ...and a Duck!
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rdelius

The parts appear to be reproduction . The faceplate has no holes to mount the transmitter bridge.The patent dates on the base are uneven, WE would have done a better job. Why did they paint the inside of the base?. The transmitter cup looks strange. The switch pile-up is rather crude looking compared to a real one and the rivit  on the hook stands out. The Receiver might be a real one with the hard rubber removed but the cap looks wrong with multiple holes.Parts copy WE not AE

FABphones

Thanks for the fast reply.
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I've taken what I needed from it.   :)

A collector of  'Monochrome Phones with Sepia Tones'   ...and a Duck!
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tubaman

Agree that it's pretty much all repro.
Even the receiver cap is from a GPO 332 and has had its sides turned down to make it look ok on the Bell shell (which might be a real one less it's Ebonite covering).
I had a similar one some years ago and once all stripped to brass and polished was actually quite attractive.
If you want a pretty candlestick to use I think these are not so bad as you won't worry about it getting damaged if knocked over etc.
:)

Dan/Panther

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Check out this website on how to spot a fake candlestick phone.

D/P
http://www.oldphoneman.com/Fakes.htm

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