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Offline LarryInMichigan

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I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« on: July 14, 2010, 08:39:28 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250663886741

I was expecting this to go for much more.  I guess that the lack of a dial held the price down.  I hope that this is an original 1930s SC.


Larry

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1198(?)
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2010, 09:06:20 PM »
Cool phone, Larry.  I think you got a great deal.  Congrats.

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1198(?)
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 10:08:53 PM »
I think that this may be an 1191 which has a built-in network and ringer.

Larry


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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191(?)
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 10:12:35 PM »
Sure looks like it.  Great deal.

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191(?)
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2010, 12:34:10 AM »
Just what I thought, Losantville, IN is close to the border with Michigan.  >:(
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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191(?)
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010, 06:24:46 AM »
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Just what I thought, Losantville, IN is close to the border with Michigan.

Jorge,

Why don't you come to live here in Michigan?  Houses in my neighborhood have been selling in the $50-$60K range.

BTW, several of my best phones came from California.


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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 12:43:47 PM »
The phone arrived today.  It is an SC 1191.  It is mostly in great condition but quite dirty, dusty, and rusty, and it contains the remains of some antique arachnids (Briny, I can send them to you if you give me your address ;D).  I connected it, but I get no dial tone, though it does take the line off-hook.  The caps on the handset are quite stuck.  It looks like I now have another fun project to do.

Here are pictures of the inside of the shell and the wiring diagram inside the bottom cover.  Once everything is clean and working, i may post more pictures.






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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 01:47:52 PM »
One really interesting thing about this phone is that the round metal piece which covers the opening where one would expect a dial to be is actually the gong for the ringer.


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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 04:14:35 PM »
Neat phone.  I've not seen anything like it, they sure packed in the components.  And the dial blank is the gong, that's clever.

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 11:04:34 PM »
Nice!

I don't think you'll find many other phones where the ringer gong is also the number card holder!
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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 01:25:50 PM »
I finished fixing, cleaning, polishing, and reassembling the phone, and it works surprisingly well now.  There was alot of rust in the receiver capsule, and one of the wires to the coil was broken.  I soaked the rusty parts in CLR and brushed off the rust with an old toothbrush.  The diaphragm was especially rusty, and after the rust was removed, small holes were left so I can see through it.  I had to partially unwind one of the ends of the receiver coil and resolder it.  Here is a blurry picture of the back of the ringer.  The clapper strikes the tab which sticks out from the gong.




Another one of these phones, in worse condition, sold on ebay today for somewhat more: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130411597040

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 08:47:14 PM »
did you say this phone was from the 1930's if so it pretty advanced for its time didnt most desksets have external ringers in the 1930's
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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 09:53:59 PM »
Kenny,

Stromberg Carlson did not date stamp their phones back then, so I do not know the date the this one was made, but it does appear in the 1936 Stromberg Carlson catalog, and the image with the description posted above is from 1936.  Most phones at that time, including all Western Electric models, did require an external subset.  Check out http://strombergcarlsontelephone.com/S-C%20PDF/1936%20S-C%20BUL%2036-J.pdf if you are interested.  This phone is shown on pages 11 and 12 of the document.

Larry

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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191 - Pictures Added
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 07:21:12 AM »
Larry, have you heard it ring yet?  I'm curious as to what sort of sound it makes.  I'd think that with the dial blank fastened to the base, it wouldn't make a "ring" sound like a free gong would.
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Re: I Just Won a Stromberg Carlson 1191(?)
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 12:34:40 PM »
Just what I thought, Losantville, IN is close to the border with Michigan.  >:(

Jorgew;
Ditto that  >:(
Nice phone however..
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