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British Army Telephone Set J.

Started by ThePillenwerfer, September 11, 2017, 11:41:16 AM

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ThePillenwerfer

I got this a couple of years ago but thought it may be of interest.

I bought it off e-Bay for £6 were it was described as being "In truly shocking condition" which was indeed the case.

The battery box was very badly rusted and contained an old bicycle lamp battery.  All that remained of the lid was the rubber gasket with some lumps of rust stuck to it.

Rather than putting me off the condition had attracted me to it as I thought it would be fun to sort out and would involve some interesting metalwork.

Despite its apparent state the blinking thing actually worked; at the very least I'd expected the transmitter to have needed changing.

The insides looked much better.

For all that it worked I noticed that even with the Key down, which is effectively on-hook, the dial-tone was still there.  In that state it should show an infinite DC resistance to the exchange but it actually measured about 50kΩ.  Changing the capacitors fixed that.  At first I thought the old ones were cased in some sort of ceramic but later concluded they were rubber which had gone rock-hard.

Apart from the battery box only one further hole appeared when I got the worst of the rust off and this was easy to patch.

A lot of the rest was down to paper thickness so would be better filled than attempting to sand it smooth.



ThePillenwerfer

I decided to mend the battery box with brass as it's easier to work with than steel, and I'd got more of it.

I cut away the front part of the original and soldered a piece of brass to the inside of the sides — in the case of the right hand side what remained of it. 

The back was alright apart from at the top so I cut that off and replaced it with a bit of brass doubled over to stiffen it.

The bit I'd expected to be most difficult was making a new lid for the battery box.  In the event this went very smoothly, probably because I didn't measure anything —"Measurement is the enemy of Accuracy" after all.  I again used brass.

That was the end of the structural repairs and after that it was a case of filling the rusty plating and then painting it.  I couldn't get the correct colour paint, or not at a vaguely sane price at least, but got some that I like; it looks far nicer in the flesh than on these photographs.  This 'phone hasn't much historical value as all the internal wiring is PVC so it must have been re-newed at some time.  These 'phones remained in use by Civil Defence until its abolition in 1968.

It's still far from perfect but looking like it's been kicked 'round a battle-field isn't altogether inappropriate.

Despite the battery box being in the worst condition of the whole thing its sealing gasket was the only one which was fit for re-use.  I didn't worry about replacing the rest as I've no plans to use it where it would need to be water resistant.

One interesting thing I found is that despite having two 500Ω bell coils, as do most 'Vintage' telephones, it was an absolute hog for ringing current; it would ring OK but not leave any for any other telephones.  Instead of fitting the usual 3.3kΩ limiting resistor I found that 5.6kΩ worked better.  This not only left current for the others but improved the sound of the J.  It doesn't have actual bells; the hammer hits the case and reducing the force of this certainly made the sound more pleasing.


twocvbloke

Wow, that really was pretty crusty, must have been kept in a damp shed or something similar to end up that bad!! Did a great job making it look presentable though, wouldn't surprise me if the military would have done something similar, given they still keep old 60s Bedford trucks going...  ;D

AL_as_needed

That turned out fantastic! Really cool that you made parts to repair the metal housing, not many would go through that much work. Just goes to show how far some determination and creativity can carry you. Nice!
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19and41

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cloyd

Well done!  You should feel very chuffed that you saved something destined for the trash!

I would like to see more pictures of the process if you have them.  How much did you salvage and what needed to be replaced.  Like the knurled knobs, salvaged or replaced with old parts?  How did you make the shiny new part for the (lid?)?  Did you color match the paint or choose something close off the shelf?

Tina
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digoxy118


Wow, that really turned out GREAT! Good job.

19and41

That is the only British field telephone equipment I have seen.  Do they surplus out the unneeded units or do they have a destruct policy with only scrap being the release?
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ThePillenwerfer

They were sold off as surplus and certainly aren't rare even now, they are the sort of thing you can get off e-Bay any time that you are prepared to pay.  More modern field telephones have also been sold off, though maybe things have changed with the coming of more modern encryption that the authorities wouldn't like people to be able to examine.

The only thing I replaced was the top part of the battery box and it's cover.  Making these parts was simply cutting, bending and soldering sheet brass.  I don't have any more photographs.

The colour is wrong (but certainly better than rust!) and would serve as a good base for a better match to the original.

19and41

That color does show off your work very well.
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andy1702

That is an excellent looking restoration. How did you do the soldering? I guess you either used a really big iron to get enough heat into the metal, or maybe a gas torch of some description?

When does this phone date from? It doesn't look that old tome me. Maybe 60s?
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