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Telephone Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: Desert Phone Guy on July 10, 2019, 05:34:31 PM

Title: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Desert Phone Guy on July 10, 2019, 05:34:31 PM
I recently obtained a Western Electric 50AL desk stand (candlestick).  It appeared unmolested, with cloth cords, no repainting, and early patent dates on the base, the last date being 1918.

The receiver looked like a typical 144, but when I looked closer, the cap is a bit different.  The thickness of the cap is thinner and there are 4 divots on the part of the cap that goes to the ear.  I compared it to another 144 cap that I have, and have provided photos for comparison.  Both caps have the same 1370 number on the inside.

Does anyone have information regarding the cap with the divots?

Thanks

Steve
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Jim Stettler on July 10, 2019, 05:38:38 PM
I think the divot cap is for airflow to the ear . It is probably intended where you have a lot  long calls,
Just a guess
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: HarrySmith on July 10, 2019, 06:09:24 PM
I recall reading something a while back on the lists I think. It was stated that the "legs" were to allow the sound of a howler to be heard if somebody put it down on a table without releasing the line. My mind is not the steel trap it used to be, more like a sieve these days, but I am 99% sure that was what was said by people a lot more knowledgable than I.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Doug Rose on July 10, 2019, 06:16:48 PM
Steve...I have a lot these pass through my hands and I have never seen anything like it...it should be a keeper...Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Jim Stettler on July 10, 2019, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on July 10, 2019, 06:09:24 PM
It was stated that the "legs" were to allow the sound of a howler to be heard if somebody put it down on a table without releasing the line.
That is a reasonable purpose.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: RB on July 10, 2019, 07:40:03 PM
Harry, or anybody.
Was this howler a sound sent by CO to the extension to try to get their attention?
Or an alert they wanted the operators to hear while they were yackin on the phone?
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Jim Stettler on July 10, 2019, 08:18:35 PM
It is a loud sound to alert the subscriber that they left the phone off hook.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: HarrySmith on July 10, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
Sent from the CO. If you have a landline you can still hear one, just leave the handset on the desk for a few minutes and you will get one.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: tubaman on July 11, 2019, 03:27:27 AM
The GPO Bell receiver caps had a small single divot for the exact same purpose of hearing the howler, so such an explanation seems very plausible.
The one you have is rather nice, but I'm not sure how comfortable it would be on the ear for any length of time.
:)

Looking more closely, are you sure its not been hand ground, as the 'corners' between the divots don't appear of equal size in the photo?
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Desert Phone Guy on July 11, 2019, 01:43:53 PM
They appear to be the same to me, looking at them under my shop light.   The fact that the wall thickness of the divot cap is thinner than the thickness of the standard cap makes me think that this is a factory piece.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: ..... on July 16, 2019, 06:03:24 AM
Here is a similar one made by Northern Electric.
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: paul-f on July 16, 2019, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on July 10, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
Sent from the CO. If you have a landline you can still hear one, just leave the handset on the desk for a few minutes and you will get one.
Someone thoughtfully put 12 hours of the tone on YouTube for our listening enjoyment. Perfect to play in the bedroom to assure a night of sound sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQwgd-cQQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQwgd-cQQc)
Title: Re: Western Electric Receiver Cap Information
Post by: Key2871 on July 16, 2019, 05:20:14 PM
Lol, I could think of way more things to go to sleep on but 12 hours of howler?.. Naa