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problem wiring 51AL candlestick to 634A ringer box

Started by Jf510, December 18, 2015, 05:25:47 PM

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Jf510

Thanks for that info. That's good to know. I will copy and put in my file.

poplar1

Topic title changed to "151AL" rather than "51AL."



(3)     4-conductor wire harness:

The wiring harness should have 5 conductors.


In the base of the phone:
·         Solid blue wire to B-Y on the little terminal pad
·         Black from transmitter to BK on the dial (already mentioned above)
·         Yellow to Y on the dial
·         Double Blue to BB on the dial
.         RED TO R ON THE LITTLE TERMINAL PAD

At the hookswitch:
·         Solid blue wire to B
·         Black to transmitter
·         Yellow to Y
·         Double Blue to BB
.         RED TO YY/R (along with short double-yellow wire from transmitter)

At the transm
itter:
.         BLACK to center terminal



Quote from: Phonesrfun on December 20, 2015, 01:19:23 AM
Just to make sure your hook switch is for antisidetone, can you send the side view of the switch so I can see the sections?  Assuming it is antisidetone, here is a checklist you can use to wire your phone.  Use it to check off each connection you do.  Also, it would be extremely helpful to you to look carefully at the diagrams that have already been sent to follow along in order to get the hang of how to wire phones according to the diagrams.  The color coded 151AL diagram that G-Man last posted is the best one to follow along with.  Notice that the same connections are referred to more than once.  For instance when talking about the receiver, I say to connect the white wire to W on the dial, and the dial has the same information when I talk about its W terminal.

Here it is:

(1)    4- conductor desk set cord:
At the subset:
·         Red to R on the coil
·         Green to GN on the coil
·         Yellow to L2Y on the coil
·         Black to the BK terminal on the terminal strip that has the black capacitor (condenser) wire

In the phone:
·         Red to R on the little terminal pad
·         Green to GN on the same little terminal pad
·         Yellow to B-Y on the other little terminal pad
·         Black to BK on the dial

(2)    Transmitter:

·         Black to BK on the dial (along with the black desk set wire)(Black wire should be in the wire harness going to the base of the phone)
·         Double Yellow to YY/R on the hooks witch

(3)     4-conductor wire harness:


In the base of the phone:
·         Solid blue wire to B-Y on the little terminal pad
·         Black from transmitter to BK on the dial (already mentioned above)
·         Yellow to Y on the dial
·         Double Blue to BB on the dial

At the hookswitch:
·         Solid blue wire to B
·         Black to transmitter
·         Yellow to Y
·         Double Blue to BB

(4)     Receiver:

·         White to W on the dial, which is the terminal on the top side of the switch pile
·         Green to GN on the little terminal pad


(5)     Check the dial:

·         W has the white wire from the receiver
·         BK has two black wires.  One from the desk set cord and the other coming from the wire harness that comes from the transmitter
·         Y has a yellow wire from the wire harness
·         BB has the double blue wire from the wire harness and a jumper to R
·         R has the jumper from BB

(6)     684A Subset:

·         One line cord wire to L1 on the coil
·         Other line cord wire to L2Y on the coil
·         Red capacitor (condenser) wire to C on the coil
·         Black capacitor wire to terminal BK
·         Red ringer wire to L1 on the coil
·         Black ringer wire to terminal K
·         Slate capacitor wire to K
·         Yellow capacitor wire to L2/Y on the coil





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Phonesrfun

#17
Thanks, Poplar1 for the correction. 


JF510, any luck, or has the holiday gotten in the way?


<edit> Even though Poplar1 changed his topic line to 151AL, when I posted this, it seems to have reverted back to 51AL and the older posts still say 51AL.  I am now editing the subject on my post to 151, but it probably takes an administrator to make a more permanent change.
-Bill G

Jf510

Hi Bill, yes thanks to all of your guys help I did get it working and it works well. I had a slight problem with the outer contact on the switch not making a good connection but I cleaned the contact and pushed it in a bit and it works great. I don't think I would of got this phone to work well without all the help I got. For a fairly new collector and repair guy this site has been awesome. I did have another candlestick and ringer box that was exactly the same so I wired it the same and it works well too but the volume on the dial tone was not strong. I replaced the handle with a newer type Western Electric with the receiver unit in it and not that metal thing with the round flat metal at the end and it's better. I thought the old type was more original but I really don't know on the candlesticks with dial but anyway it works. Thanks again.