You gotta love the audacity of the unknowledgeable! Thank You eBay and the Internet! ::)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262864850577 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/262864850577)
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Had he put a "Make an Offer" on listing, he'd probably get a handle on the current market value.
I was almost afraid to click on "watch", was afraid it would accidentally place a bid...Good luck with your auction, sellerx!
Well, if you really want it you won't have to worry about getting sniped in the closing seconds of the auction. ;)
I sent an email to him offering to sell mine to him for 20% of his buy-it-now price.
Chuck
Quote from: cihensley@aol.com on March 03, 2017, 03:29:52 PM
I sent an email to him offering to sell mine to him for 20% of his buy-it-now price.
Chuck
HA!
Seller relisted at $20k BIN with a make offer. Maybe they will learn a realistic price or maybe they will be slow learners.
Unfortunately (fortunately?) the phone has been "hacked" with a G5 handset and Confidencer mouthpiece, I would assume for PTT in a high noise environment. I have heard that the most common use of a 2211/2212 was at switches, that they were seldom used elsewhere because the installer would have to put in a subset, and the Trimline was becoming available. My question is: Would a Bell installation have used a Confidencer? Military maybe?
He doesn't want to part with it.... that's why its so expensive!
Confidencer was used all the time by bell, I put them in many times on payphone extensions. The 2212 was used a lot in CO's which were very loud.
Quote from: Babybearjs on March 19, 2017, 01:58:51 PM
He doesn't want to part with it.... that's why its so expensive!
His wife said
"List that darn thing on EBAY!!!"
Quote from: JimHyak on March 05, 2017, 10:08:45 AM
Seller relisted at $20k BIN with a make offer. Maybe they will learn a realistic price or maybe they will be slow learners.
Couldn't find the $20k listing but did find an intermediate listing at $15,000 and the current listing of $15,000 with Make and Offer.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-System-Touch-Tone-Space-Saver-2212-Wall-Phone-Extremely-Rare-/262894722751
Maybe he dropped the $20k to $15k between your post an my search.
Quote from: Payphone installer on March 19, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
Confidencer was used all the time by bell, I put them in many times on payphone extensions. The 2212 was used a lot in CO's which were very loud.
Thanks, by "switch" I meant CO, and wondered about the Confidencer, since the element looks a lot like a headset N1, you have confirmed my suspicions.
Quote from: TelePlay on March 19, 2017, 08:39:47 PM
Maybe he dropped the $20k to $15k between your post an my search.
Yes, the price is dropping with each re-list. In another couple of months, we may see a price which will see some action...or not. I dropped it from my watch list, I didn't want to encourage the seller.
Sold today. The price: $633.
The seller finally listed it as an auction and found the price of the day. A bit less than $20k.
Quote from: JimHyak on April 30, 2017, 11:33:59 PM
Sold today. The price: $633.
The seller finally listed it as an auction and found the price of the day. A bit less than $20k.
That is a pretty high price, but I have been told that these are quite rare and valuable. I will have to keep an eye out for them.
Larry
It's funny how a phone like that is only valuable because it's rare. If the rotary Space Savers were extremely rare, and the 2212s were found in every Goodwill, would anyone even bother buying this one?
Not that it's going to stop me from lunging at one sitting on a table for $5 at a yard sale... ;D ;)
Well, that's how it is with almost anything people collect. Rarity is everything.
That is an extremely low price for that telephone. I paid $1500 for a new one, ten years ago.
There were extremely low numbers of them made, which is why a person in the hobby has made repro dial mountings for them.
This is the first time I've seen one! I didn't know there was a TT version of the Space Saver!
how rare are these anyway, where would these have been used? where they mainly used in a CO? there must be more of them out there.....
I had a black one 20+ years ago for less than $100, I sold it 10+ years ago for around $300. I could of bought a green 211 from the same seller.
JMO,
Jim S.
FYI, Ray Kotke made some TT tops for these a few years ago....Doug
Sorry for repeating myself, but I have been told by more than one installer that they never saw these in the field. By the time this was built, you could get a TT wall Trimline in a wide range of colors, and the installer did not have to mess with a subset so guess which way he would push the customer. Who knows how many were pulled off a rack or wall at a CO and dumped? Of production WE phones since the 500 series, I would think these are in the top ten for rarity, or close to it. And rarity isn't everything, I like them for their ungainliness, like a baby with an outsized head. :)
I tried a couple of times to get Ray to make me some, or at least the head, but haven't had any luck. I've seen pics of the clear one he made, that's cool, I think Red would be too.
We (Bell workers) were told that the original batch (maybe 500 units) were made as a special order to replace already-installed rotary phones of the same type (211 and/or 212) at a large department store in NYC. ISTR that Macy*s was the one mentioned. It would not have required the tedious installation of subsets since the assumption was that they were already in place. Just some internal gossip...no idea of it was true or not. Certainly they were not offered all over the System at the time I heard this story.
Quote from: Victor Laszlo on May 05, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
We (Bell workers) were told that the original batch (maybe 500 units) were made as a special order to replace already-installed rotary phones of the same type (211 and/or 212) at a large department store in NYC. ISTR that Macy*s was the one mentioned. It would not have required the tedious installation of subsets since the assumption was that they were already in place. Just some internal gossip...no idea of it was true or not. Certainly they were not offered all over the System at the time I heard this story.
Macy's seems to be the only one that could have qualified for an order that large, considering that they would probably need a good number of desk sets too.
I know for sure that these were in the Central Office mounted on the rack or frame they were also used in airport control towers. When I was a payphone installer I fixed 211's that were mounted in bars as a extension to payphones. 212's were used a lot at answering service companies mounted row after row on the wall. Button and buzzer and 211's were also used in barber shops and beauty salons as extensions to payphones. As a side note in residence I only ever saw one 500U in black. I also only saw two home inter-phone systems. This was 82 to maybe 86.