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Started by wds, June 23, 2014, 06:06:29 PM

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wds

Picked up three W28 phones, the wall phone on the left I'm not sure who the manufacturer is - SF - Siemen Fuld?  Nice glass bells, but the sound isn't quite what I expect.  Sort of a dull ring.  The elements in the handset are Tesla. 

Middle phone is a Siemens Halske.  The phone on the right is the Japanese version of the W28.  Siemen Fusi.  It has a crack in the case, and the cradle has one broken prong, but for $10 I couldn't pass it up.  All three of them seem to have dates in the early 40's - all war phones.
Dave

wds

#1
The Japanese phone is all bakelite, including the bottom plate - except the the handset receiver ring and the cradle.  The ring seems to be a steel coated with bakelite. 
Dave

Matilo Telephones

Nice set there! With Glasglocken (glass bells). Typical of the war. To save on strategic materials.

The middle one has cyrillic writing on it. A while ago a saw one on the forum here with the exact same writing and that one was from Bulgaria.

Do not know the maker SF off hand. Not Siemens Fuld. They were competitors and not known to cooperate or have joint ventures.
Groeten,

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WesternElectricBen

I'm wondering what glass bells would sound like?


Ben

LarryInMichigan

You sure keep finding these things.  My FUSI phone also has nearly all bakelite parts.  The "SF" logo could possibly be Siemens Fujitsu or perhaps Siemens Fusi.  I blieve that "FUSI" was actually an abbreviation for Siemens Fukawara.  It would not have been Fuld.  Harry Fuld was Jewish, so the German government seized the company in the 1930s and changed the name to TN.

Larry

wds

The middle one did come from Bulgaria.  I saw that post with a similar phone, but it's not this one.
Dave

wds

#6
Pictures of the inside of the SF wall phone.  The SF logo is also on the ringer coils.
Dave

wds

#7
I looked at the dial on the wall phone, and it's identical to the Japanese phone.  So maybe the wall phone is a Siemens Fusi  (Siemens Fukawara) ?  Google translate says some of the words are Malaysian, some are swedish.
Dave

Matilo Telephones

Well yes, the dial is a bog standard (no offence, these dials are very good) N30 dial.

The paper label is in German, as far as I can see.

Glass bells I have only seen on German made W28´s. Licence built W28´s built outside Germany I have never seen having glass bells.

Is that a stamp with RP on the dial? Could be Reichspost.

Fuld was not seized by the government, by the way. But the authorities did make it very hard for the company to keep trading.

Here you can find some history on Fuld/T&N in the periode 33 - 45:
http://www.henderson-tele.com/vtm/de/de/de-1933-1948.html
Groeten,

Arwin

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wds

#9
Yes, it's a RP stamp.  Your right, all three dials are identical.  SF Wall phone on the left (dial stamped SH), SH in the middle, Fusi on the right.
Dave

wds

SF symbol on the ringer coils
Dave

Matilo Telephones

FS is Ferdinand Schuchhardt

http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=591

Schuchhardt, Berliner Fernsprech- und Telephonwerk AG; Berlin    (D)   
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wds

How in the world did you figure that one out?  So, it's FS, not SF.   I wonder, is this phone completely unique but similar to the SH version, or did FS make this under license by SH? 

Here's a web site that lists the telephone manufacturers in germany during this time period.

http://strowger-net.telefoonmuseum.com/tel_hist_germanfirms.html

Here'a another web site that lists the codes for the manufacturers.

http://www.henderson-tele.com/vtm/de/de/makers.html

Dave

Matilo Telephones

I looked at Petra Hendersons page in the list of manufacturers to find one that might have FS or SF as initials. Found Ferdinand Schuchhart. Then I put that through google and found the matching logo.

By the looks of it it is exactly the same as the other W28's. I have restored a few through the years, so I know it pretty well. I own about 5 or 6 of them at this moment. Only the markings differ.

Yes it was licence built and by the looks of it S&H provided the dial, or it was fitted later. The dial has S&H logo's on it.
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