G1 on box holding F1 handset Northern Electric wooden phone

[axil]

I found this NE phone at a garage sale and was wondering what the box holding the F1 handset does???

It says G1 just under the cradle.



thx dave

[TelePlay]

I found this NE phone at a garage sale and was wondering what the box holding the F1 handset does???

It says G1 just under the cradle.

That looks like a space saver phone without the dial (the white disk on top would be the dial mount area.

Check out this space savers on paul-f's site

http://www.paul-f.com/weHandsetMountings.html#C

Scroll down to see a few other images of this type of phone and the G mount version or use this link (thanks Paul).

http://www.paul-f.com/weHandsetMountings.html#G

The wood box would be the ringer subset of sorts. Someone put a few different things together to make an answer only phone.

Can you open up the wood box, take pictures and post them?

[axil]

Looks like you are correct, although it looks like the center of a dial on top. Here's a pic of whats inside:



thx dave

[NorthernElectric]

The G1 contains the hookswitch and terminals to connect the handset.  As teleplay says, a dial housing can be mounted on the top of one of these.  Functionally, it is like a B1 or D1 base, and like them lacks network components so requires a subscriber set (subset).  Your N500CG is a subset, and not a wooden phone by itself, as it lacks hookswitch, transmitter, and receiver.  This way, the G1 can be used with different subsets for different types of service.

[axil]

Thx for the explanation...I believe I understand now. 

[TelePlay]

Your N500CG is a subset . . .

Where is the ringing capacitor, behind the magneto? I can't tell from the photo or I'm just missing it.

[Jack Ryan]

Your N500CG is a subset . . .

Where is the ringing capacitor, behind the magneto? I can't tell from the photo or I'm just missing it.

It looks like it has been modified as the key is missing as well.

Jack

[unbeldi]

Your N500CG is a subset . . .

Where is the ringing capacitor, behind the magneto? I can't tell from the photo or I'm just missing it.

Most magneto telephones are used on a dry line and do not require a capacitor in the ringing bridge.
A common battery signaling set however does.   This was probably converted.

[Jack Ryan]

Most magneto telephones are used on a dry line and do not require a capacitor in the ringing bridge.
A common battery signaling set however does.   This was probably converted.

Unbeldi, I believe the 500CG should have a capacitor and a key - both are missing.

Jack

[unbeldi]

Most magneto telephones are used on a dry line and do not require a capacitor in the ringing bridge.
A common battery signaling set however does.   This was probably converted.

Unbeldi, I believe the 500CG should have a capacitor and a key - both are missing.

Jack

Yes, the CG was originally a CBS set.  That's why I said it was probably converted.

IIRC, the capacitor was mounted against the left wall above where the key would have been.

[NorthernElectric]

Your N500CG is a subset . . .

Where is the ringing capacitor, behind the magneto? I can't tell from the photo or I'm just missing it.

I think this subset has been modified, and if present, the capacitor would be mounted at the top left side.  I think it was also originally equipped with a pushbutton switch at the bottom left with the button protruding from the holes where the bundle of wires acting as the mounting cord exit.  Here is a photo of another N500CG posted in this topic.

[Jack Ryan]

Yes, the CG was originally a CBS set.  That's why I said it was probably converted.

CBS? The one I'm thinking of is magneto signalling.

Jack

[unbeldi]

Yes, the CG was originally a CBS set.  That's why I said it was probably converted.

CBS? The one I'm thinking of is magneto signalling.

Jack

CBS = common battery signaling

I believe these sets were built for several different signaling methods.
*traditional dry-loop magneto signaling
*common battery signaling while using the local battery for talking
*a grounded-ringing towards the CO (selected by the push-button), but line-bridged ringing between stations on the loop.
*simplex signaling?

Notice that the ringer motor is not biased as in a normal B1A ringer.

So,  if installed in a normal, simple magneto system, someone would probably remove the key not to confuse users. The cap isn't needed then either.

[axil]

There is also 2 wires running through a hole in the bottom of the box connected to the locations pointed out below. Not sure what it means but you guys would know.

[unbeldi]

There is also 2 wires running through a hole in the bottom of the box connected to the locations pointed out below. Not sure what it means but you guys would know.

Those were to connect to the battery that powered the transmitter.