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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: MMikeJBenN27 on August 07, 2022, 09:09:51 PM

Title: Pay phones
Post by: MMikeJBenN27 on August 07, 2022, 09:09:51 PM
For the past year, I have been regularly seeing Automatic Electric payphones that are scripted as "Western Electric Company, Inc." on E-Bay  You can see that they are AE, or are reproductions of AE, but most sellers, of course, think that they really are Western Electric.  Where are these coming from?

Mike
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: rdelius on August 07, 2022, 09:21:29 PM
Phoneco made new metal housings marked western electric company  ,these are the grey mfg pattern so ae parts will fit
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: MMikeJBenN27 on August 07, 2022, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: rdelius on August 07, 2022, 09:21:29 PMPhoneco made new metal housings marked western electric company  ,these are the grey mfg pattern so ae parts will fit
Greybar is similar to AE?  Never knew that.  Why in the heck is PhoneCo committing this type of fraud?

Mike
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: Jim Stettler on August 07, 2022, 09:40:37 PM
Many old 3 slots are a mix of parts.
Their design makes many parts interchangable.
The originals went to rebuilders that assembled them into other payphones.
The rebuilders didn't care if parts matched. they were just creating payphones.
That is why an unmolested 3 slot is a very cool phone.
JMO,
Jim
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: MMikeJBenN27 on August 07, 2022, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: Jim Stettler on August 07, 2022, 09:40:37 PMMany old 3 slots are a mix of parts.
Their design makes many parts interchangable.
The originals went to rebuilders that assembled them into other payphones.
The rebuilders didn't care if parts matched. they were just creating payphones.
That is why an unmolested 3 slot is a very cool phone.
JMO,
Jim
Still, its a shame that PhoneCo is doing that, as it is plain as day that an AE payphone is not a WE payphone, just like a Galaxie 500 is not a Chevy, and a Belvedere is not a Ford.  Guess that's why I never got rich.  I refuse to defraud people.

Mike
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: poplar1 on August 07, 2022, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: MMikeJBenN27 on August 07, 2022, 09:09:51 PMFor the past year, I have been regularly seeing Automatic Electric payphones that are scripted as "Western Electric Company, Inc." on E-Bay  You can see that they are AE, or are reproductions of AE, but most sellers, of course, think that they really are Western Electric.  Where are these coming from?

Mike

They are not AE, other than the dial and maybe the chrome hook?, maybe the coin gauge? maybe the handset. They are 90% reproduction, as stated in the Phoneco catalog.

The coin chute is newly manufactured using 2 old gongs from a single line desk or wall phone.

The repro lower housings (LH) stamped Western Electric can be distinguished from the real 1934-1939  160-series WE LHs by the lack of parallel troughs on the bottom.

The biggest red flags are the hand-drawn instruction cards and the early Bell stickers on the dial.
Title: Re: Pay phones
Post by: FABphones on August 08, 2022, 03:50:24 AM
Could we have some comparison images.