my new phones from the US

[teka-bb]

Hello everyone,

I've recently returned from my stay in the US and took a few phones with me.

I had  a great time and am planning to be back for the San Jose show in November.

[gpo706]

Nice buys, love the AE 890, never seen anything like this before, let us know how you get on with them.

S.

[Jim Stettler]

Hi Remco,
Glad you enjoyed the USA. I know we do things a little different here.

You got some good phones. I have always wanted one of the dual AE sets.

I notice that your Strowger has the HTF "proper" mouthpiece, Those mouthpiece sell for over $100.  I know where you can get a nice replacement  button for the front, Those are almost always missing.

The 20B is a really sharp looking phone is the red Cross mouthpiece original or "Infurna" ?

Jim

[McHeath]

Fabulous finds!  Those dual dial AE units are pretty slick, for those days when you just can't decide if you feel tone or pulse.

That dial bezel on the SC 500 is curious, while I've seen numbers only rural plates before I've not seen one with the numbers so large.

The early brick cell phone is cool.  I notice that it still is adhering to the design principles of the old days, it has an acoustic seal chamber for the ear, the dial is not touching the face in use, and the so called modal range of microphone to receiver to face is still mirroring that of the G series handset. It also can be cradled between head and shoulder for hands free use.   Somewhere along the way all that went out the window and now we have cell phones that have zero ergonomics and are very uncomfortable to use.  But we can slip them into our pockets eh, so I guess that's "progress" of a sort.

[Jim Stettler]

That is  what I call the second generation brick, It is just like the first generation Brick only smaller and lighter . I think they started showing up in the late '90's.

My first "portable" work cell  phone was a first generation Brick. This was in 1994. My boss was into hi-tech, I think they were around $1200 each when he bought them.

Jim

[AET]

Very nice finds!!  I'm very envious!!

[GusHerb]

If I had that AE, I'd be dialing one phone number in tone and pulse....  
That oughta get the central office confused... LOL

[foots]

  Wow, nice finds. You really racked up on your visit.

 There is something strange about that SC dial - I have one with a rural plate and the numbers appear smaller and I notice that the fingerstop on yours is in a different location. The fingerstop on mine is in the same place as a WE. I think your dial may be the same as the one on the 1543s such as the one Dennis posted   

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2461.0

[AE_Collector]

Remco:

Did you get your AE 890 working after we chatted about the line connections in the base?

It took me a long time to corner my first AE 890 here via ebaY.

Terry

[teka-bb]

Everything is working except for the ringer. The ringer has 4 wires connected to it, only 2 are used. The measured resistance between the two wires that are used appears to be rather high, about 6 kOhm.

[AE_Collector]

I don't know what the resistance should be but can check. Yes only two wires are used but of course the ringer needs to go through a capacitor as well. I think the capacitor was visible in your pictures. They are tempramental ringers for sure. I'll check the resistance of one for you.

Terry

[JorgeAmely]

A standard AE80 ringer is around 4,000 ohms.

[teka-bb]

I replaced the capacitor and internal ringer inside the AE 890 with another ringer and capacitor from another phone. This setup works fine. Than I replaced the capacitor with the original capacitor. This also works OK.
When I put everything back to normal I am able to measure the ringing voltage across the ringer however the ringer doesn't ring. When I move the part of the ringer, that is supposed to strike the gong, closer to the coil I feel that it wants to move so there must be a current going through the coil.
I have a similar model ringer which shows the same behaviour so I don't think the problem lies in the one ringer.
Maybe these type of ringers just don't work on the European ringing frequency?

[JorgeAmely]

What is the European ringing frequency?

[AE_Collector]

Maybe these type of ringers just don't work on the European ringing frequency?

Yeah, I wonder? As I said previously, those single gong AE ringers are temperamental so maybe the different frequency over there is enough to put an end to them completely. Don't you use 25 cycle ringing where as we in North America use 20 cycle?

Your ringer has the little wire bias spring attached still? It is just a wire on top that hooks into a slot in the armature to keep a bit of tension on it. I have also seen these ringers that have lost their magnet (literally). I think the magnet is about 1 to 1.5 CM long and maybe close to 1 CM diameter. It can simply fall out and get lost.

Terry