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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: Babybearjs on January 07, 2015, 12:14:15 AM

Title: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Babybearjs on January 07, 2015, 12:14:15 AM
I thought I'd throw this out to you all..... when shipping Ebay sales, DON'T use FedEx! I noticed that fedex is NO CHEAPER then the post office and gives the package to the post office anyway. on all my purchases that I've gotten through Ebay that the seller sends the item through FedEx, but the Post Office delivers the package.... so, what good is using them if the Post Office is going to deliver it anyway??? just send the item flat rate through the post office.... it just easier that way....
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Kenton K on January 07, 2015, 12:40:45 AM
Yes, although fedex is sometimes cheaper for large and heavy packages.

-Ken
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: wds on January 07, 2015, 06:21:05 AM
For any package over 10 lbs., I always use Fed Ex - it's usually about half the price of USPS.  Maybe it's my location, but I'm pretty happy with Fed Ex.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Babybearjs on January 07, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
I've always used the flat rate boxes from the post office. I talked to my postman yesterday and he said they can really be a problem, especially during the holidays. On the package I'm suppose to get today the tracking info says "Package may be delayed a day or two" and its at the post office... then if they took the time to give it to the post office, then why didn't they just deliver it?? goofy if you ask me....
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: wds on January 07, 2015, 11:40:22 AM
I've actually never heard of the USPS delivering Fed Ex mail.  Maybe it varies by location - some Fed Ex locations must not be staffed adequately to deliver it's mail in some locations so they have to use USPS.  I have also found that I get much better postage rates from USPS priority mail by NOT using the flat rate boxes.  It's almost always cheaper to use the standard priority mail pricing than the flat rate box pricing.  I put an 8 lb box in the mail today from Ohio to Michigan, priority mail for less than $6, using a 12 x 12 x 10 box.  Over 10 lbs seems to be the breaking point for Fed Ex to be a better deal than USPS for me. 
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Russ Kirk on January 07, 2015, 11:53:05 AM
In some cases FedEx does use USPS for low weight packages/envelopes.
They call it smart-post.

http://www.fedex.com/us/smart-post/outbound.html

Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on January 07, 2015, 12:05:13 PM
My dad ordered something online that was shipped to him via FedEx from California. It was expected to arrive at the Waukesha Fedex building about a week and half later. The day that it was expected to arrive, the tracking said that it was ready for pickup. When he went to pick it up that night, the guy behind the counter said that the package was still in Los Angeles!

I personally find FedEx to be unreliable and not very apologetic if they do something irresponsible. I prefer USPS for phones and UPS for larger stuff.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: wds on January 07, 2015, 12:12:44 PM
Ok, smart post.  I've never used that service.  Does't sound too smart.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Dan/Panther on January 07, 2015, 12:41:11 PM
I've ordered paints etc, and had to pay special handling and hazardous material fees, as much as $20.00 on one order. BECAUSE the Post Office will not allow that kind of stuff to be shipped. IT's against FEDERAL law.
Well guess what. twice the Post Office delivered those packages. I turned them in both times to the Post Master at my local Office. I paid like $40.00 for shipping, Then they took it to the Post Office and sent it Priority for $12.95.
Postmaster took the info, said it was illegal. Nothing done about it.
I can't complain to the company selling the stuff, then they might refuse to sell to me. They sell specialized products, Re-Ranch guitar refinish supplies. So No other source.

D/P
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: twocvbloke on January 07, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
My friend across the pond likens FedEx over there to the former courier Citylink here (who recently went bust cos they were paying out more in compensation for lost, damaged and stolen items than they were making back from shipping charges), rarely used FedEx here myself cos they cost too much... :)
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: 19and41 on January 07, 2015, 02:18:49 PM
I live about 10 miles south of Atlanta and my phone was sent here by the fedex/post office hand off.  I tracked the package to the their facility here that handed it off to the USPS facility 5 miles from here.  They then promptly sent it to a city 80 miles away.  It didn't make the sort at that post office and they sent it back up here and delivered it 1 day later but 1 day less than their ETA.  This is the second time this has happened out of the two times I have had items shipped here using that method.  (not by my choice.)
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: wds on January 07, 2015, 03:32:23 PM
It sounds like the problems associated with Smart Post is actually USPS, not Fed Ex.  I can say without a doubt that I've have many problems with deliveries via USPS, and none with Fed Ex.   I still send most of my packages through USPS because of convenience, but they sure do need to improve on their deliveries. 
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Phonesrfun on January 07, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
I have wondered why several things I have ordered from Amazon and other places send them this way.  The only thing I could come up with was that perhaps Fed Ex does not have as well of a developed network for end-pint delivery (the last mile concept) as the post office does for small packages.  For sure, the post office has a very well developed system of distribution, whereas Fed-Ex has no established daily routes.  For Fed Ex, every delivery starts with a distribution center and every day's deliveries has to be mapped out.  The post office carriers just drive their normal routes. 

I live in a small town, and there is not even a Fed Ex office here.  There is a post office.  It probably makes more sense for Fed Ex to contract with the PO for that end-point delivery.

All this is my conjecture.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Babybearjs on January 07, 2015, 07:35:49 PM
I mentioned this to a neighbor who sells on ebay and he told me it was the "smartpost" and it was cheaper that way.... well the phone I ordered came today and was totally overpacked... so that's the reason for the FedEx shipping.... weird, you would think that people would just use either USPS or UPS.... but fedex is out there too..... and I thought they only handled overnight packages and stuff like that....
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Phonesrfun on January 07, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
Fed Ex used to be primarily an overnight service, but that changed several years ago as they have been trying to compete more with UPS.  FedEx has a ground shipping division in addition to their overnight service.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: 19and41 on January 08, 2015, 07:51:11 PM
I got a FedEx shipment today in short order from Canada.  It was FedEx akk the way though.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: AE_Collector on January 08, 2015, 09:37:10 PM
Any time is a good time to remind everyone that shipping either way across the Canadian/US border by other than the Post Office can frequently lead to quite expensive brokerage fees by Fedex, UPS etc.

Shipping by the Post Office doesn't make the shipment exempt of brokerage fees but the handling portion of the fee I believe is still just $5. With the other guys I think it starts at something like $35 or $40 and can go up from there. And it doesn't matter if it is a $5 or $10 item, Fedex/UPS make good money off of this so there is no incentive for them to just let it go.

Many many phone collectors and others have been burned so be careful out there....

Terry
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Babybearjs on January 09, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
On the item I ordered, it came yesterday and was totally overpacked for its size.... on a lot of telephones, they can be shipped in a medium flat rate box for less then $12.00. people forget that these items where designed to survive the test of time and will survive shipping with enough packing to make the item secure.... on my order, they totally wasted bubble wrap and a box that they could have used for something else. but, better safe then sorry must have been the thinking when shipped....so I'll give them that credit... also 1 other thing that is frustrating is when people "estimate" the shipping charge. but, back to the main topic.... its just weird that fedex uses the P.O. to deliver their packages. this "smartpost" idea is nice, but redundant.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: WesternElectricBen on January 09, 2015, 07:26:04 PM
My few FedEx experiences have been well. Once, shipping a huge box of phones back from Lancaster was a success. And more recently, I was sent some phones and stuff. They all came back well, not a dent on it. Unlike a box that was dropped off by USPS today which was completely wrecked.

Ben
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: wds on January 20, 2015, 03:48:34 PM
And here is why I just love USPS.   Notice the package went the wrong direction for about a week, then took another week to be delivered even after it arrived in Columbus.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: kleinkaliber on January 20, 2015, 10:34:20 PM
I find it's much less stressful if I don't check the tracking of my packages. Watching them take the roundabout way getting across the country, then bouncing back and forth between the same two offices for a week before finally arriving, it's no wonder some arrive looking like they had washed up on the beach.
Title: Re: Fedex Shipping
Post by: Ktownphoneco on February 12, 2015, 06:33:49 PM
I can't speak for shipments within the U.S.A., but here in Canada, it's cheaper to ship by Fedex Ground if the package is over a specific weight, and Under $199.00 U.S. Dollars (if going to the U.S.A.)     Generally, I've found that anything over about 7 Lbs., travels cheaper than Canada Post can offer, both to Canadian destinations, and those in the United States.        The only "fly in the ointment" so to speak, is the value of the item being shipped if it's going from Canada to the U.S.A.      If one were to value an item $200.00 U.S. dollars or more, then the package needs to go through a customs broker.   Fedex offer brokerage services through their affiliate company, Fedex Trade Networks, but it can be sent to the customs broker of your choice.    But brokerage is an added fee, to either the seller, or the buyer.      However a Fedex Ground customer service person told me, "don't worry too much about value.    Our system is so tightly controlled for loss or theft, basically nothing is going to go missing.     She explained that their in-house tracking system is so accurate, they basically know every time somebody handles the package as it moves through their system.     
Consequently, I've shipped $500.00 USD telephones to addresses in the U.S.A., and stated their value on the Fedex Commercial Invoice as $199.00.    I've never had a problem.     Fedex have a much better tracking system, and will usually get any package to it's destination faster than the post office, on both sides of the border.
My 2 cents for what it's worth.
Ktownphoneco - Kingston, Ont.