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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: wds on October 25, 2015, 06:04:39 PM

Title: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 25, 2015, 06:04:39 PM
This dial plate came with those dials I purchased last week - appears to be NOS.  Anyone know what application this would have been used for?
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: Doug Rose on October 25, 2015, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: wds on October 25, 2015, 06:04:39 PM
This dial plate came with those dials I purchased last week - appears to be NOS.  Anyone know what application this would have been used for?
I have seen them on AE 40 Navy Phones with the locking handset....Doug
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: Jack Ryan on October 25, 2015, 07:32:40 PM
Yes, I have too - both types of locking handset.

I don't know if these are original.

Jack
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 25, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
Thanks - after looking at some pictures it does seem to be mainly used on the ship phone.  Also looks great on the other models as well. 
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: stub on October 26, 2015, 08:21:54 AM
wds,
       The first reference I found was in AE Catalog 4055 - C , June 1940 , pg. 33 , cat # AK - 22 .   stub
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 26, 2015, 08:30:58 AM
thanks for that.  My number plate is metal with printed numbers.    I'll check tonight to see if the "0" to "1" are luminous.
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: Mr. Bones on October 26, 2015, 05:09:53 PM
Luminous numerals? :o

Now I totally want one!!! ;D

Perfect headboard / nightstand AE! 8)

Best regards!

Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 27, 2015, 09:52:02 AM
Can't get the numbers to glow.  Either it's just white paint or the luminous material has faded to the "off" position.
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: G-Man on October 27, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
Here is an excerpt from a manual that AE composed for the USN:
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 27, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
since my letters don't glow in the dark anymore, can I assume I'm not radio-active?  Maybe I should stop carrying the dial plate around in my pocket.
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: unbeldi on October 27, 2015, 04:32:56 PM
Does it glow for a little bit when exposed to a fluorescent light and then observed in the dark immediately?
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: G-Man on October 27, 2015, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: wds on October 27, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
since my letters don't glow in the dark anymore, can I assume I'm not radio-active?  Maybe I should stop carrying the dial plate around in my pocket.
Note that the catalog description does not state that the black plastic number plate is luminous; instead, it is the "Metal Number Card" that has its numerals finished with luminous paint.

Here is a description of the number card from an earlier AE catalog that is located in the TCI Library.

Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: NorthernElectric on October 27, 2015, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: G-Man on October 27, 2015, 04:58:04 PMNote that the catalog description does not state that the black plastic number plate is luminous; instead, it is the "Metal Number Card" that has its numerals finished with luminous paint.

Is the one that Jack posted such a card?

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15112.0;attach=131008;image)
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on October 27, 2015, 07:37:15 PM
I actually think those plates look a little creepy on an AE40, the regular white porcelain ones look 'friendlier' to me.
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: wds on October 27, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
Yes, mine is the metal one.   I've held it up to incandescent, fluorescent, and set it on the window sill all morning, and there was no glowing at all.  I wonder how long the luminous material actually lasts.

I kind of agree with the creepy look - maybe the police departments used the black dials plates on the black phones to intimidate the unlucky people who got to visit the police department.
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: Doug Rose on October 27, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
I have "no glow" as well. At least on the dial plates. A little JD is a good thing....for medicinal  purposes only.....for a glow as needed. It was a tough Tuesday!!    :o...Doug
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: unbeldi on October 28, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
Does anyone have a luminous plate?   Do they glow redish or green-blueish?

I suppose I would expect the phosphorescence to be redish, if they were made in the 1930s or 40s, because those zinc sulfide-based formulations came before the later ones with higher efficiency.  The color is determined to a great part by the doping of the material with various metals, in particular copper, magnesium, aluminum.

The radio-luminescent paints deteriorated rather quickly, I think. It is not that the radium's half-life limits this, but the material itself becomes inactive.

Use your favorite Geiger-counter to check the plate.  ;D

Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: AE_Collector on October 28, 2015, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: wds on October 27, 2015, 09:52:02 AM
Can't get the numbers to glow.  Either it's just white paint or the luminous material has faded to the "off" position.

Or the lithium batteries are depleted....or were they Ni-cads back then?

Terry
Title: Re: ae type 24 dial plate - black
Post by: andre_janew on October 28, 2015, 11:06:04 AM
I'm not sure, but I think the Ni-cads came first.