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Telephone Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:32:06 AM

Title: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:32:06 AM
Makes more sense to start with the ones that already have a line cord attached.

Overall, I'm real happy with this one.  Just needs some cleanup and fine tuning.  Only wear I see is around the switchhook plungers and one corner of the rubber cover around the base.  A little bit of corrosion on the bottom, but not serious and no rust.  

Fully functions, dial rotates and returns fine, handset caps came off easily, but the ring hesitates.  There is some static coming from the line cord, it gets worse when I wiggle it.  Here are the pics and a few Youtube links.  I have to say, I really like the art deco look of this phone, and the AE50s too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnYM9Vy6Dhg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnYM9Vy6Dhg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7bXqiXAt4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7bXqiXAt4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEpanQVpbMI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEpanQVpbMI)
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:33:34 AM
The rest of the pics.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: stub on April 27, 2010, 01:46:25 AM
Brinybay,
              Some of the AE 40's S L ringers fit that AE 50!!!!If you have any extra that is .  Nice phone !!!   stub
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Phonesrfun on April 27, 2010, 01:49:43 AM
That AE 40 is nice and clean.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: AE_Collector on April 27, 2010, 11:57:47 AM
You're looking at a frequency ringer in the 40 though so it probably doesn't ring? I can almost read the frequency on the label .... a 2 digit number with the frequency symbol after it.

New rubber gaskets are available for the base from Gary Goff. $10 or $11 I think.

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 12:33:59 PM
Quote from: ae_collector on April 27, 2010, 11:57:47 AM
You're looking at a frequency ringer in the 40 though so it probably doesn't ring? I can almost ready the frequency on the label .... a 2 digit number with the frequency symbol after it.

New rubber gaskets are available for the base fro mGary Goff. $10 or $11 I think.

Terry

It rings, look at the Youtube links.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: stub on April 27, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Brinybay,
               Great job Greg, now how did you get it to ring ?       stub
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: stub1953 on April 27, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Brinybay,
               Great job Greg, now how did you get it to ring ?       stub

I just plugged it in and called it from my cell.  The Youtube vids are the first try, I didn't do anything to it other than hook the line cord up to a biscuit. 
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Dennis Markham on April 27, 2010, 01:05:23 PM
I noticed when I was watching the video that the clapper is one of those adjustable ones.  I have never seen one that wasn't on a frequency ringer.  I was amazed that it was ringing--and strong too.  I first thought maybe you modified the reed spring thingy in the back.  It looks like it says 50~ on the ringer?? That would indicate 50 cycles and it shouldn't ring on your line.  Maybe the clapper being moved inward did the trick.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
Here's a better view of the ringer so you can see the markings.  I just hooked it up again and called it (w/o any adjustments), same result, it rings, but it hesitates.  Did I happen to get a frequency ringer that works on today's phone lines?
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: JorgeAmely on April 27, 2010, 01:41:01 PM
It is a 50 Hz frequency ringer. It will have a tough time ringing on modern lines.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: JorgeAmely on April 27, 2010, 01:41:01 PM
It is a 50 Hz frequency ringer. It will have a tough time ringing on modern lines.


I guess that's why it hesitates.  In that case, I'm surprised it works at all, but it does ring so I don't think I'll mess with it.  I don't remember what frequency today's phone lines are.  20 something hz?
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: JorgeAmely on April 27, 2010, 01:54:17 PM
Greg:

It is 20 Hz in USA, 25 Hz in Europe.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: stub on April 27, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Ringer Frequency Suffix Index for AE ringer  D-56516- A trough M
 A= 16.6 Hz      B= 25 Hz     C= 33 Hz   D= 50 Hz     E= 66.6 Hz    F= 20 Hz
 G= 30 Hz         H=  42 Hz    J= 54 Hz    K= 66Hz      L= 40 Hz       M= 60 Hz.  
This list is the same for the D-56441-A through M
 I don't know why your ringer works ?  If it aint broke ,don't fix it!!!!!!!
 
AE Circular  1712 A     11-53        pg. 28 and pg. 30                     stub
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: ae_collector on April 27, 2010, 02:56:15 PM
Someone must have messed with it to get it to ring.

That's what I was thinking too, somebody hot-wired it, but I wouldn't know from looking at it.  If there's real curiosity, I can take more pics.

Quote from: stub1953 on April 27, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
I don't know why your ringer works ?  If it aint broke ,don't fix it!!!!!!!
 
stub

Yup.  What era are these from, 40s?
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Dennis Markham on April 27, 2010, 06:54:59 PM
Greg, that is the one in the video, isn't it???
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on April 27, 2010, 06:54:59 PM
Greg, that is the one in the video, isn't it???

Yes, it is.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Dennis Markham on April 27, 2010, 06:56:30 PM
Sounds pretty good for a 50hz ringer............
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 07:01:36 PM
The other funny thing is notice that the hesitation in the ringer is more pronounced with the cover on, but is almost steady with it off.  Maybe it's scared of the dark!   :D
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: AE_Collector on April 27, 2010, 10:22:51 PM
I hadn't watched the youtubes of the AE40 ringing until now. The clapper looks to be the correct one for a ringer frequency in the 42 to 50 cycle range. I looked at some frequency ringers that I have here in a box and the higher the frequency, the smaller the clapper. A 20 cycle frequency ringer has a huge clapper.

My guess is going to be that someone "messed" with the adjustment of your ringer to make it work. If so, it doesn't work half bad!

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 27, 2010, 11:04:12 PM
Listen to it hooked to a PBX, hardly any hesitation.  The PBX must have more juice in it than the straight phone line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmLJWcQsPPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmLJWcQsPPE)
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: baldopeacock on April 28, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
@ Brinybay, who said "I have to say, I really like the art deco look of this phone"....

I do too.   The AE40 is really a great example of Art Deco style, and with the chrome trim these are cool looking phones.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 29, 2010, 02:52:39 AM
Quote from: baldopeacock on April 28, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
@ Brinybay, who said "I have to say, I really like the art deco look of this phone"....

I do too.   The AE40 is really a great example of Art Deco style, and with the chrome trim these are cool looking phones.

Did they make them in colors other than black?
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: paul-f on April 29, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: baldopeacock on April 29, 2010, 11:02:17 AM
even purple?   Pretty cool!
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: Greg G. on April 29, 2010, 12:37:37 PM
Quote from: paul-f on April 29, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
Yes.

Oo, I want that maroon and gold one!
Title: Re: AE 40 inspection.
Post by: LarryInMichigan on April 29, 2010, 12:56:19 PM
Ray Kotke (telephonecreations.com) sells housings in various colors.

Larry