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Title: Aches and Pains
Post by: Doug Rose on November 23, 2017, 09:24:38 AM
I have had arthritis and gout for years. Pain that likes to move around. Now I am probably going to have a hip replacement. Hip aches all the time. I am used to living in pain, not a complaint...just the way it is. It could be much worse. I can do whatever I used to do, maybe just a little slower  8)

I have tried all the pain relievers, patches etc with no relief. Cortizone injections never did anything, but the lidocaine shot before the cortizone injection did help short term.

I see this on TV every night and decided to give it a try. Only a short term use of 1 day, but it does slow down the constant pain and is very easy to use. Just roll it on the area that hurts. I slept eight great last night and cannot remember the last time that happened. No throbbing aches keeping me awake.

No locker room smell.

Making it a very Happy Thanksgiving....Doug
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: AE_Collector on November 23, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Doug Rose on November 23, 2017, 09:24:38 AM
Only a short term use of 1 day, but it does slow down the constant pain

What were you getting at here? Once a day?

Wife constantly complains her hips ache as well. Can't travel too far in car without squirming and complaining which kills any hopes of mine for a road trip down the coast to to California or elsewhere. Though our new Honda CR-V seems to have improved things a bit.

Terry
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Ktownphoneco on November 23, 2017, 10:49:51 AM
I can vouch for the information Doug just passed along.      When needed, I use the patch version of Salonpas.     My left knee is shot due to arthritis and past injuries.     I'm waiting for a knee replacement in the spring.   Anytime my knee flares up and becomes very painful, I put on 2 patches at 2 specific points on the knee, and that's it.
It was recommended to me by my next door neighbor who is a retired registered nurse.     As Doug says, it does work well.   It's available at most drug stores, and on Amazon.com and Amazon.ca.

Jeff Lamb
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Doug Rose on November 23, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
Terry...just started using it, took a shower this AM and put it on. So far so good. No complaints from janet about the smell.

Jeff... I tried the salonpas patches, but they did smell medicinal. Plus they leave a mark after removing and take hair you would rather leave attached!

This is a short term trial for me, but I see a HUGE difference and it's about $13. So far, money well spent...Doug
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: AE_Collector on November 23, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: AE_Collector on November 23, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
What were you getting at here? Once a day?
Terry

Oh I get it now..., you've only been using it short term...first day. Thought you meant some limit to how often you could use it.

Terry
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Ktownphoneco on November 23, 2017, 02:27:03 PM
I'll try the liquid version of the product Doug, the next time I run out of patches, which won't be long.   

Terry  ....   The package recommends wearing the patch medication for a maximum of 3 hours, then remove it.    That's usually enough time to get my knee settled down.   

Doug  ....   How often do you apply liquid Salonpas ?

Jeff
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Doug Rose on November 23, 2017, 02:30:11 PM
Three times a day it states it can be used.  That's what I aim to do
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Ktownphoneco on November 23, 2017, 03:34:27 PM
Thanks Doug !


Jeff
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: twocvbloke on November 23, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
I thought I'd have a quick google of Lidocaine products in the UK, and, it seems it's popular, for one specific :o problem................  ;D
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Phonesrfun on November 24, 2017, 02:38:42 AM
Quote from: AE_Collector on November 23, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
Though our new Honda CR-V seems to have improved things a bit.

Terry

My CR-V is the best car I have had for back-pain.  I think it's because I sit more upright.  My wife's Accord, on the other hand is not so good.  Non-stop pain is not fun.  My wife and I look at each other and wonder what it will be like when we get old???
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Payphone installer on November 24, 2017, 05:59:46 AM
I have hip pain also and figured out I could almost eliminate it completely with omaga 3 esters. That is the pharmaceutical version of very potent fish oil. I buy it on eBay it almost stops my hip pain completely. Takes a few days. You can also get your doctor to prescribe it to you. If you watch it on eBay the price varies.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-TEVA-brand-Omega-3-Acid-Ethyl-Esters-1-gram-Sealed-Btl-of-120-Caps/332431589844

?hash=item4d667781d4:g:dTQAAOSwz~pZ956n

I also found out that for some reason riding a bike a few miles helps also I think it is the difference in motion.
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Jim Stettler on November 24, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
I seem to be sensitive to lidocaine, so I don't use it. However menthol patches and liquid work well for me for most pains .
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My wife was having a deep muscle issue with her shoulder , so I bought her this body buddy from Amazon. We got it Tuesday.
https://www.amazon.com/Body-Back-Companys-Trigger-Therapy/dp/B0006VJ6TO

I used it a lot last night on various pressure points on  my back, hip and foot. I really noticed a difference when I got up.

Like most body work it seems to release toxins into the body so it is good to hydrate well.
Jim S.
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: Doug Rose on November 28, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
Seven day trial period and it works well. Much better than than the patch. Good temporary relief. I have a appointment with a orthopedic surgeon on 12/28 and was wondering how I could last that long.  I commute into Boston and have a 12 minute walk from the train to the office and then another 12 minutes back to the train. That was killing me. As of now.....no worries....good stuff!..Doug
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: TelePlay on November 28, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Yes, it does.

My right arm has been hurting since I did something to it trying to open a door at work. Bought the gel and applied it to my whole arm. Most of the pain went away so now I only apply on an as needed basis, once a week.

Gave some to my wife who has a hip problem. After using the gel, she went out and bought the patches. I does not cure the problem but it does deaden the pain and in the case of my arm, that allowed me to use the muscles correctly and they stopped hurting from misuse.

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: 19and41 on November 29, 2017, 03:37:17 PM
I got some liquid for my sister.  I guess her pain is more nerve based.  It didn't seem to do much for her, although I appreciate hearing about it.
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: RB on November 30, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
Good chance to drop my 2 cents in here.
I have had lots of joint problems, a failed back surgery, and a few car wrecks.
Leaves you pretty messed up!
For 19and 41, nothing stops nerve pain except, removal of the infraction that is rubbin on the nerve.
Chiropractic helps bunches...if you have sublexations. cant spell...
For JimS, most of those rub on's are pepper based, not sure about lido... I cant use icy/hot, burns like a MF!
but plenty of others out there that don't burn.
For AE Collector, car seats just s^(k!!! the best thing, is to stay off them, but if not option, a WEB type lumbar thing works very well.
just stay away from those crappy foam pads. they cause more problems.
Cant remember who posted about the CANE. thay is wunderfull!!!!! just be careful not to apply TOO much pressure, they can bruise too.
Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: TelePlay on November 30, 2017, 11:17:58 AM
Quote from: RB on November 30, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
Good chance to drop my 2 cents in here.
I have had lots of joint problems, a failed back surgery, and a few car wrecks.
Leaves you pretty messed up!
For 19and 41, nothing stops nerve pain except, removal of the infraction that is rubbin on the nerve.
Chiropractic helps bunches...if you have sublexations. cant spell...
For JimS, most of those rub on's are pepper based, not sure about lido... I cant use icy/hot, burns like a MF!
but plenty of others out there that don't burn.
For AE Collector, car seats just s^(k!!! the best thing, is to stay off them, but if not option, a WEB type lumbar thing works very well.
just stay away from those crappy foam pads. they cause more problems.
Cant remember who posted about the CANE. thay is wunderfull!!!!! just be careful not to apply TOO much pressure, they can bruise too.

RB,

Good points. Used several of these over the years for pains, many of which were due to back muscles pulling my spine out of alignment causing the nerve bundle to send false signals to the brain - many deep muscle massage and many chiropractic sessions got rid of a lot of arm, hand, leg and foot pain. Before that, I used topicals.

Biofreeze is menthol which cools the skin surface and the body send whatever to that spot to help relieve the pain. Feels good, doesn't do much long term to eliminate the underlying cause.

Capsaicin Cream is made with ground capsaicin peppers which heat the skin causing the body to send whatever to that spot to help relieve the cause of the pain. Feels hot, doesn't do much long term and after applying, if you rub an itchy eye, well, sorry, it's going to burn like hell for a good half hour. I used exam gloves to put it on and then threw the glove away.

But on Doug's advice, I tried Lidocaine which is a topical anesthetic used by doctors for numbing the skin and of great use for pre-injection, skin biopsies or anything where the skin needs to be deadened before doing a procedure. It's different that the above two in that it deadens nerves rather than activates them to feel cool or hot.

I tried the lidocaine gel on my whole right arm and it got rid of 90% of the pain long term in a few days time. I think the muscle I injured two years ago was causing me to misuse the other muscles in my arm making the whole arm hurt. Numbing the pain allowed the muscles to recover and my arm is almost back to normal. Only problem I have with lidocaine is with one of its side effects, I get a headache that lasts for about 36 hours after applying it. After the headache is gone, follow up applications within a day's time does not prolong or restart the headache. As headaches go, and I've had my share of migraines and hang overs, it's not as bad as those but it stays at a constant, low level until its gone and that is very annoying.

Title: Re: Aches and Pains
Post by: 19and41 on November 30, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
I've been fortunate in not getting arthritis, but I did have the side effect from prescribed statin drugs that nearly incapacitated me.  I also have excema that comes with cold weather.  That has been a plate full for me.