I was looking at this (and other like it from same seller)
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-567766325-telefono-antiguo-de-disco-_JM
this is about 30 USD with shipping
If someone knows these models, would I get a useful network that might work in something else? Might buy for hanset and dial parts anyway 30 bucks for some spare AE parts but there are siilar units listed by same seller too.
Maybe it is just using some AE Parts?
Mark
It is a standard Automatic Electric 3-line set. The 3 red buttons are for placing a holding bridge on any of 3 lines. A Key system isn't needed.
You could find the same network in a cheaper AE single line set.
I am sure I could in USA, not in Mexico
Seems like a lot of money for that model. I have seen them much cheaper.
What is the current exchange rate....8 Peso to the US$? So $25 US? <edit> YIKES 20.5 Peso to the US$ ...I am out of touch! Too busy watching our CDN$ drop against the US$. So an AE 187 for $10 US.
It is an AE 187. Nice older model (except for the colour) with chromed metal cradle (plastic came later) and color matching line cord. Just needs a faceplate. Will likely have an AE single gong ringer inside as well.
Terry
don't buy it.... wait till someone has one here in the US. the 187's are still out there.... I have a few myself....
Exchange rate is 20 to one so it is 10 bucks plus shipping.
One in the USA would then require me to get it to mexico
Looks like same seller has one with ringer box here
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-572179881-telefono-antiguo-de-disco-_JM
same price too!
might be worth it for the ringer
The writing on ringer translates to "High Impedance Ringer"
Doesn't look like an AE ringer to me but the 187 has a colored cord with spades and the connecting blocks so that is a plus. No face plate is a minus though.
Cheap enough if the shipping isn't too bad.
Terry
Is there any issue making these work with ATAs?
what is the probability of finding faceplates?
I am really thinking about making these my home office phones if I can use three lines with each phone and connect them to ATAs. I have rotary dial ATAs and I can connect to Cell channels, PSTN and VOIP with no problem on my end.
would these be the same (excuse me in advance AECollector) , crapy staticy stuff that I have become so accustomed to with AE single line phones or were these made a little better?
these probably need external power for blinky lights as well .
Quote from: markosjal on May 15, 2017, 03:53:46 PM
these probably need external power for blinky lights as well .
The incoming lines have neon lamps that light up with 90 VAC ringing current...don't know if they will light up with ATA ringing.
Quote from: markosjal on May 15, 2017, 03:53:46 PM
would these be the same (excuse me in advance AECollector) , crapy staticy stuff that I have become so accustomed to with AE single line phones or were these made a little better?
these probably need external power for blinky lights as well .
No appolgies necessary.....except maybe from AE regarding the 80E telephone set.
These 187's were made when good phones were still the norm. Illumination needs just a small 10VAC power supply. Presumably you could use anything that produces around 10 volts AC or DC. There is no magic involved. Plus and minus in on pair 7 to each phone. To display Line busy signals from other phones in the system a single lead is strapped between each similar (other phones don't necessarily have the same lines in the same order on them) line appearance on other phones. The ring of pair 2, 4 & 6 is the lamp lead for lines 1, 2 & 3.
I don't think that I have spare faceplates around here. I may have spare paper mats for under the faceplates. They must exist out there somewhere. Could probably make your own plates from 1/8" plexi.
Terry
So another seller has now posted this
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-580733294-telefonos-antiguos-cu-_JM
These look like they lack * and # or are worn off?
Would be worth knowing about availability of replacement keypads. ANnyone know a model number for these?
AE made some pulse dial pads for rotary circuits and left the extra buttons blank
Quote from: markosjal on June 03, 2017, 10:25:11 AM
So another seller has now posted this
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-580733294-telefonos-antiguos-cu-_JM
These look like they lack * and # or are worn off?
Would be worth knowing about availability of replacement keypads. ANnyone know a model number for these?
They may LOOK worn off but it's highly unlikely they actually ARE worn off. TT pads from major manufacturers always used "double injection molding" where the legends go all the way through the key and cannot wear off.
Add to that the fact that the * and # keys are used at a fraction of the rate of the 1-0 keys and would be the last ones to wear off even on a cheap hot stamped keypad. See rdelius' reply for the most likely explanation.
I have seen a lot of Pulse keypads in mexico so that is probably correct.
I do have some Stromberg Carlson keypads and single ATC if any of those may work in one of these. I am sure mounting will be the hardest issue. I do not see the wiring as the most difficult task. I know the SCs well enough I can wire them to most anything. The ATCs are different.
By the way it is about 28 Dollars US each
Quote from: markosjal on June 03, 2017, 05:13:02 PM
I have seen a lot of Pulse keypads in mexico so that is probably correct.
I do have some Stromberg Carlson keypads and single ATC if any of those may work in one of these. I am sure mounting will be the hardest issue. I do not see the wiring as the most difficult task. I know the SCs well enough I can wire them to most anything. The ATCs are different.
DP keypads were popular in Mexico because of slowness in modernizing CO equipment. They were popular in the US in the 70s when there were still lots of SXS and crossbar COs.
Button spacing certainly is different from the WECo/ITT/S-C standard and keypad width and perhaps mounting screw locations relative to the button holes too I think. You will need an AE pad but they should not be impossible to find.
I went through some perils with an AE touchtone pad from an ATC Snoopy phone with AE guts. The button spacing at least on what I saw was the same. The mounting was clearly different. I finally ended up repairing the touch tone pad and learned some new things along the way.... such as when diagnosing DTMF pads (confirmed on both the AE and later an SC35a1) if any row is stuck closed it prevents the other rows from working, same goes for columns.
It makes sense but never ran into it before. I spent to long trying to figure out why two columns did not work sometimes. Later tested on the SC and had identical behavior
Yes, almost for certain they are "DigiPulse" keypads. I have never seen that GTE branding on the front of the case like that. These are newer etc given the smoked plastic handset cradle rather than chrome. I haven't seen that sort of wood grain faceplate either but with all the newer style faceplates being almost clear plastic with paper mats underneath, almost anything can be put under the faceplate for a nice looking finish.
Terry