"Butler's Handle"

[poplar1]

Here's an "all dressed" AE 40 Cliff is selling complete with "butler's handle," chrome trim, and repro Extensicord (handset cord). These handles were easily detached and lost. Later model 40s had permanently attached bar for carrying handle.


Automatic-Electric-Model-40-Bakelite-Telephone-Butlers-Handle-Chrome-Trim

[Mr. Bones]

Thanks for posting Cliff's pictures; I browsed by it earlier today, prior to reading your post.

     All this time, I had not realized that "Butler's Handle" referred to different than the plain, flat strap between the cradle sides, as on my 1st AE40. Good to learn new things, I try to several times a day!

Best regards!

[BDM]

Interesting attachment. Wonder if these come up for sale by themselves at times? Would make a nice add-on

[poplar1]

I'm not sure whether "butler's handle" applies to both types since this of course wasn't something AE would have called it...perhaps Stub or Terry can give us the proper names and catalog numbers.

Thanks for posting Cliff's pictures; I browsed by it earlier today, prior to reading your post.

     All this time, I had not realized that "Butler's Handle" referred to different than the plain, flat strap between the cradle sides, as on my 1st AE40. Good to learn new things, I try to several times a day!

Best regards!

[poplar1]

They might show up in a parts box. You need to make sure your AE 40 has the holes for the handle. These holes  would be on the metal parts that are part of the cradle assembly.

Interesting attachment. Wonder if these come up for sale by themselves at times? Would make a nice add-on

[BDM]

Thanks Dave. Rules out my four AE40s, no holes as described

[paul-f]

You can get the mounts for the Butler's Handles here:

  http://www.telephonecollectors.org/store/index.htm



There are more photos of carry bars and Butler's Handles here:

  http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2815.msg38264#msg38264

  http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5977.0

  http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3872.0

[BDM]

Silly me I misunderstood. The holes are parts of the handle/plunger mounts. I see that now. Explains why I do not have the so called mounting holes  Paul excellent on the AE40 info links, thanks

[poplar1]

Sorry I didn't describe these better. I think they will turn up on an AE 40 with broken case if you keep looking--but the handle itself is much more difficult to find. I salvaged 2 or 3 of the handles when I worked for a refurbisher in the 70s, but have no idea where they are now.

[BDM]

Dave it wasn't your description, it was my reading that was the issue

[stub]

AE Catalog 4055 C, 1940 , pg 9 said it was optional and pg 45 shows picture and part #  D-780188-A . AE Catalog 4055 D, 1944, pg 9 and pg 42 said it was optional and pg 46 shows the picture of the  "lift handle" in chrome and said it was not available.  Hope this helps.  stub

[paul-f]

They're still out there.  Some of the guys who used to regularly attend the Enfield shows usually had them.  They're not on the internet, but I suspect they'll be at the upcoming Lancaster show.

A wanted posting in TCI's Singing Wires might turn up a few.