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Subset Cord color codes now, vs. then....

Started by Babybearjs, January 16, 2015, 08:17:14 PM

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Babybearjs

enclosed is a copy of the color code choice from OPW. the question is.... what WAS the proper color code for the subset cordage... from what I remember the colors went something like this.... R,G,Y,BLK,BL,ORG.  is there any surviving documentation that talks about this subject?  was there ever any standard in this area??   
John

unbeldi

Quote from: Babybearjs on January 16, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
enclosed is a copy of the color code choice from OPW. the question is.... what WAS the proper color code for the subset cordage... from what I remember the colors went something like this.... R,G,Y,BLK,BL,ORG.  is there any surviving documentation that talks about this subject?  was there ever any standard in this area??   
You can find the relevant information in catalogs and BSPs on the net and the TCI library... happy reading! And when you have it all collected and sorted, you can spend about 3x the same amount of time and document it in one place.  ;D

poplar1

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I think you meant R GN Y BK BL W. (W not ORG).
Here,for example, are the colors for a D29A mounting cord on a 464GG

   TO LINE 1                             TO  LINE 2                                 TO LINE 3
RING TIP BAL HOLD      RING TIP    ---BAL---------  HOLD           RING   TIP      --BAL------------- HOLD
1R    1T   1B    1H          2R    2T    DD     D      2B   2H              3R       3T       DD       D       3B     3H
R      G     Y     BK         BL     W    -      BR-R  -      BR-GN      BR-Y   BR-BK    -     BR-BL     -   BR-W                                         

                                             TO LINE 4                                   TO LINE 5
                                    4R   4T     DD    D       4B    4H          5R       5T        D     5B               5H
                                   R-G  G-R    -  R-BK    -      R-BL        R-W   G-Y       -        G-BK           G-BL

TO LINE & SIGNAL CKT.
     R        B
Y-BL       Y-W

LINE AND BUSY LAMPS

LAMP        LAMP      LAMP        LAMP       LAMP         LAMP
GRD            1            2              3             4               5

  LG            1L          2L             3L           4L              5L
BK-W       BL-W       BK-BL        SL           BR-SL       G-W

SPARE
A          X
Y-BK




"C'est pas une restauration, c'est une rénovation."--François Martin.

Babybearjs

wrong info.... I'm talking about SUBSET cords....
John

unbeldi

Subset cords in WECo land used almost always   R, GN, Y, and B (black), where the black one was only used in anti-sidetone sets.

poplar1

WE 3-conductor: Red (common), Green (receiver), Yellow (transmitter) (Example: D3AK for 20AL, B1and D1 Type Handset Mountings)
WE 4-conductor: Red, Green, Yellow, Black.  (D4U for 151AL, 202)
WE 5-conductor: Red, Green, Yellow, Blue, Double Red. (D5J for 51R desk stand and D2, D3 Type Hand Set Mountings)
WE 6-conductor: Type
      Red, Green, Yellow, Black, Blue, Double Red, Double Yellow. (D6J for 203 or 151C)
      Red, Green, Yellow, Blue, White, Red-Red. (D6L for 206 and 207 Type Hand Telephone Sets and 50CN, 151S Desk Stands)
      Red, Green, Yellow, Black, Blue, Double Red (D6M for 151R Desk Stand)

(Ref: WE Catalog #10, 1939)
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Stromberg-Carlson:
3-conductor: Brown with red tracer, brown with green tracer, brown with orange tracer
4-conductor: Brown/red tracer, brown/green tracer, brown/orange tracer, brown/blue tracer
5-conductor: Brown/red, brown/green, brown/orange, brown/blue, brown/black

(Ref. S-C 1926 Catalog)
"C'est pas une restauration, c'est une rénovation."--François Martin.

Babybearjs

OK, now we are talking... now, when did this color coding change to what it is now. and what changes were made (color substitution). and then lets compare that to how OPW makes their cords. what standards do they use?
John