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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 11:04:49 AM

Title: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 11:04:49 AM
Jan and I found this at Brimfield last week. I have seen Polish and Russian phones that are similar. It is WE Thermoplastic Red/Orange color and it wonderful shape. There is no ringer inside...otherwise great shape? Any ideas?....Doug
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: FABphones on July 21, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
Interesting that the label on the underside is written in English. And there is a Technix International still trading in India.

I can't make out the smaller text on the label, what does it say?

Strong vibrant colour there, and it looks very tidy, is it a keeper?  :)
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 11:33:27 AM
Fab...just a phone number and an insignia. it will be moving to another collection....Doug
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: HarrySmith on July 21, 2018, 12:01:10 PM
Made in New York? I would guess a cheap copy of a European phone. It does resemble some I have seen. Looks good. I noticed the connector block on the line cord. Did you add that? Does it work?
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
Harry...it works....no ringer, but dials out and conversation is clear
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: HarrySmith on July 21, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Under the sticker it states Made in Poland....Doug
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: HarrySmith on July 21, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
AHA! No wonder it resembles a european phone. Good detective work.
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: HowardPgh on July 25, 2018, 04:25:02 PM
That phone would look good paired with a late 50s to 60s portable radio.
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: FABphones on July 25, 2018, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: Doug Rose on July 21, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Under the sticker it states Made in Poland....Doug

There's one of these up on eBay at the moment, the listing says it was military (?), shows a black and white photo of the phone sitting on top of a recording device, ansaphone maybe, I didn't look. I only saw it in passing. I'll see if I can find it again and grab the photo.

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Moderator edit: info added

     https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-POLISH-RED-ROTARY-TELEPHONE-FOR-KGB-POLICE-UNIT-TELKOM-DIAL-PHONE-VINTAGE-/172800123102

Also

     https://allegro.pl/telefon-tarczowy-telkom-rwt-elektrim-storczyk-74-i7458291345.html?reco_id=1d04908e-9072-11e8-a1a7-b8ca3a6abcd8
     https://allegro.pl/telefon-aster-telkom-rwt-elektrim-antyk-prl-i7475349373.html?reco_id=1d04908e-9072-11e8-a1a7-b8ca3a6abcd8
     https://allegro.pl/telecom-telcza-elektrim-stary-telefon-prl-i7340241188.html?reco_id=1d04908e-9072-11e8-a1a7-b8ca3a6abcd8#thumb/2
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: FABphones on July 25, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
Whilst looking this up I came across some others, but the first two pics probably of most interest:

The first in red. Not sure if quite the same model, eBay listing number: 172800123102.

I don't know how accurate the seller's info is but they say
'Original Vintage Polish Rotary Telephone TELKOM RWT ELEKTRIM
Very Rare model STORCZYK-74 Used by the Police unit (Milicja) and KGB.
Modified Aster-72 with DIN-5 output for tape recorder'

The b/w photo shows it mounted on an old tape recorder.

Then, I found another photo, this version without a dial, shown in use by the military.

I also found a version with the extra listener on the reverse.
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: ..... on July 25, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
Doug , I have a 1979 one in yellow one.

CDN Doug
Title: Re: RWT Elektrim Storczyk 74
Post by: countryman on August 19, 2022, 08:57:06 AM
I found a quite well kept red RWT Elektrim "Storczyk" (Orchid) for only 10 € shipping included.
The grey (g) button is to hear louder, the red one (m) is to start a connected tape recorder. One DIN jack on the backside is for the signal, the other is to start the recording. There is a small light bulb (12V 20mA) behind the left clear window to indicate active recording, but the power has to come from the recording device.  I do not know of any other customer available phone with a tape jack? Recording conversations without informing the other party might even be a legal problem in some legislation.
The right bulb (with Edison screw) is a neon bulb. I measured up to 60 V at the bulb with my PABX ringing but the light does not shine up. IIRC neons will need 70 V, so lack of ringing power will be the issue. The actual ringtone is crisp and nice.
The phone seems to be made 1982. It is quite lightweight, the plastic feels like Polystyrene (there are "PS" marks as well). One could mistake it for a toy phone... which it isn't. But seriously, I do not believe the military or secret service would have used it?
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: Etienne on August 19, 2022, 09:28:32 AM
I am pretty sure the dial is an ITT design. I have a very similar one on my 500 franco-italian clone and this finger stop appears on all Face Standard phones from the 1970's- 80's.
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: HarrySmith on August 19, 2022, 10:57:44 AM
There appears to be a folded piece of paper in there. Pictured in the yellow circle. That may help identify it.
Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: countryman on August 19, 2022, 11:31:54 AM
Well observed! It's the schematic in the last picture. The name of the phone is Storczyk 74 which means "orchid" and 74 probably is the year of appearance.

Both elements in the handset are East German:
Title: RWT Elektrim Storczyk 74
Post by: countryman on August 19, 2022, 12:04:22 PM
Closer view of the dial:

Title: Re: Polish? Russian? Any Ideas what this is?
Post by: countryman on January 27, 2023, 01:13:13 PM
A multilingual leaflet with technical specs is now available on http://telesfor99.org/
http://telesfor99.org/download/RWT_Storczyk-74_1976.pdf