Western Electric 302 Won't break dial tone

[WesternElectricBen]

Hi,

I just finished resorting a WE 302 and I went to test it to dial out and it didn't break dial tone. I did a rebuild on the rotary and made sure to put the wires back where they go... I'm not sure if it worked before I did the dial rebuild or not...

If you have any ideas or know how the dial should be hooked up that would be great. I'm open to anything.
Ben

[Phonesrfun]

Hi,

I just finished resorting a WE 302 and I went to test it to dial out and it didn't break dial tone. I did a rebuild on the rotary and made sure to put the wires back where they go... I'm not sure if it worked before I did the dial rebuild or not...

If you have any ideas or know how the dial should be hooked up that would be great. I'm open to anything.
Ben

Here is a link to the diagram in the TCI library.

http://telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/wiring-diagrams/western-electric/doc_details/2154-300-series-desk-telephones-302-5302-tl

[HarrySmith]

Here is a colorized diagram from our own wiring diagram thread;
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2761.0
There is also more diagrams there.

[WesternElectricBen]

Here is a colorized diagram from our own wiring diagram thread;
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2761.0
There is also more diagrams there.

Thank you, the color diagrams are much easier for me to understand.
Ben

[WesternElectricBen]

Hi,

I just finished resorting a WE 302 and I went to test it to dial out and it didn't break dial tone. I did a rebuild on the rotary and made sure to put the wires back where they go... I'm not sure if it worked before I did the dial rebuild or not...

If you have any ideas or know how the dial should be hooked up that would be great. I'm open to anything.
Ben

Here is a link to the diagram in the TCI library.

http://telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/wiring-diagrams/western-electric/doc_details/2154-300-series-desk-telephones-302-5302-tl

Thanks!

[WesternElectricBen]

I checked over those sketches and it still won't dial out..  might it be the dials fault?
Ben

[Phonesrfun]

......might it be the dials fault?
Ben

Maybe...

Did you do anything to the dial?

If so, what, and do you have pictures of what you have now?  It is very difficult to tell you without much more information.  Once a telephone is disassembled and re-wired, literally anything can be the case.

Please provide more information.

[WesternElectricBen]

......might it be the dials fault?
Ben

Maybe...

Did you do anything to the dial?

If so, what, and do you have pictures of what you have now?  It is very difficult to tell you without much more information.  Once a telephone is disassembled and re-wired, literally anything can be the case.

Please provide more information.

Yes, I did rebuild the dial, I tried to ask this earlier but no one really thought anything was wrong through the pictures, who knew.

But here you go, I think the "ticker" isn't really "ticking" as it doesn't move... Then when I manualy set it it doesn't reset. There is also vertical play, I can push up and down on the hub.
Ben

[Phonesrfun]

The pulsing ratchet pawl does not seem to be engaging the gear on the dial shaft properly.  Perhaps someone can show you what it looks like and a video of how it should pulse.  Myself, I cannot very well post a video.  

Lastly, you might as well show a photo of the back of the dial so we can see if that has been re-connected properly.  However, the ratchet seems to be the problem from what I can see.

If all else fails there is always Steve Hilsz.

[WesternElectricBen]

The pulsing ratchet pawl does not seem to be engaging the gear on the dial shaft properly.  Perhaps someone can show you what it looks like and a video of how it should pulse.  Myself, I cannot very well post a video. 

Lastly, you might as well show a photo of the back of the dial so we can see if that has been re-connected properly.  However, the ratchet seems to be the problem from what I can see.

If all else faisl, there is Steve Hilsz.

Alright,

I just took it apart to restart might anyone have even a picture on how the pawl shoud be?

[WesternElectricBen]

Dang it!!! I just got it! Works wonderfuly! Thanks everyone!

[baldopeacock]

Dang it!!! I just got it! Works wonderfuly! Thanks everyone!

Nice.   I'd be afraid to tear a dial down and rebuild.   Way to go...

[WesternElectricBen]

Dang it!!! I just got it! Works wonderfuly! Thanks everyone!

Nice.   I'd be afraid to tear a dial down and rebuild.   Way to go...

Thanks, maybe you could try with a dial from a phone that got parted out?
Ben

[HarrySmith]

Since Steve does them so cheap & fast I never bothered to spend the time trying

[WesternElectricBen]

Since Steve does them so cheap & fast I never bothered to spend the time trying

Thats a good point but I like to have the know how. I feel like I did a more complete job though. I do have to agree Steve is a GREAT person.

Ben