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Not exactly a auction, so if it needs to be moved, please do so.
I usually find prices on ETSY to be way out of line but you never know so I continue to look from time to time. I'm not a big fan of key phones either. When I saw this 12/62 WE 564H+ for $5 + shipping, I couldn't jump in fast enough! Total was about $18.00.
Now I'm getting excited about my 1st key phone, particularly excited that it is a older dial phone. Don't really care if it works or not but if it does it will be a bonus!
If someone has a clear panel for this one that isn't cracked please DM me, I'd like to replace it.
It should be here the day after Christmas, I will post pics then.
Merry Christmas!
Benny
Great find at a great price!
I was not a big fan of key sets either until i got a WE 565HK. It was missing a bit inside, but once I was able to wire the keys so the buttons would illuminate and added a spokesman speaker.... made my desk look very official. ;D
Love the early 60s 500s, something about the dial and the sounds they make gives them a very particular feel. Good luck working on it and Happy Holidays!
Thanks Al...This will be a new experience for me...
Merry Christmas!
Come on Benny, your not talking to your wife. Once you have a key phone, it won't be long before you will have to have a 551B Key Service Unit. Then more key phones :-) Nice phone at a great price.
It's an advanced form of Phoneitis!
I got it bad....no cure!
Just wait til you start paging people in the house from your desk with the keyset.... ;D
The clear plastic designation holders are very often missing or pieces are broken off on AE and WE Key sets. So unless someone thought to keep quantities of them off of phones going for scrap or has boxes of new ones, you won't easily find a replacement. The crack won't be as obvious once you get a white paper designation under it. If you do get a replacement don't toss this one!
Terry
Nice buy! I saw that one, but I already have several 564s.
Try to spread the crack slightly, and add a drop of Acetone in there (without letting your finger touch the surface, or anywhere else the Acetone spreads or drips), and close the crack shut. You wouldn't believe how invisible the crack becomes once the plastic is fused back together. I've done that for several clear fingerwheels also made of Lucite, and often the only visual reminder of the crack is a slight line in the surface.
Thanks for the tip, Christian...I'll try that.
Terry, I thought it might be a piece easier to find...Thanks!
Benny
benny -
here's a pdf of a scan of a designation card you could print out (below).
like Al, i wasn't much of a fan of these keysets in the past, but they're now definitely on the 'would like' list.
Thanks, David...
It will be here tomorrow!
I appreciate it!
Benny
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It came in and so far I have cleaned it up but haven't tested it to see if it works. All dates are matching '62, mostly 12/62. Although the case bears a '62 date it does smell like soft plastic and responded beautifully to the denatured alcohol treatment, no sandpaper required! I used steel wool on the dial plate and that worked well.
I'm short one bulb (where do I find that?). I treated the clear plastic key panel with acitone which repaired the crack but it still looks bad. If anyone has one of those I'd be interested, although I hear they are quite rare to find.
I'm very pleased so far with my $5.00 phone and it displays really well. I now find myself looking closely at key phones on EBAY.I feel sure although this is my first, it most certainly will not be my last!
Edit: BTW what are those taped off wires likely to be?
Benny
More pics...
Now I am not an expert by any means....So please anyone correct my ignorance :P
Based on what I learned from my keyset, the taped off or "insulated and stored" (as the BSPs like to say) wires are for additional functions that may not have been required by the phones original user, and how the key system was set up to ring each extension. My 500 L/M for example, while not a keyset, has extra terminals and wires mounted under the dial for different functions under an 1A2 key system.
Are you missing a bulb or is it burnt out? Mine is missing a bulb under the hold or disconnect key and I think this was intentional upon install. The bulb socket is there however and I assume this was to allow for the hold button to blink or light up when someone was on-hold if the system required that.
Lastly....and this is my redneck engineer side showing.... regardless of the original intent, you can easily wire the buttons to illuminate when depressed and keep the phone wired as a standard 500 C/D set. Mine is wired as such and makes for some fun while im on the phone. I can "transfer" calls to several corporate departments within the confines of my desk ;D or my spokesman. Great conversation piece either way. Yours is looking great BTW, it has cleaned up well and looks handsome with the dial card in place.
The explanation of the taped off wires sounds logical.
The bulb is missing, although it probably won't be used unless I try to wire it to light for display purposes.
Thanks for the tips!
Benny
No problem!
I had a thought while snacking (when I do my best ;)) Is there anyway you could make a new clear plate out of thin acrylic sheeting? Granted it would be difficult to get 100% accurate, but might be easier than tracking down a replacement for the time being.
Quote from: AL_as_needed on January 01, 2018, 03:36:25 PM
No problem!
I had a thought while snacking (when I do my best ;)) Is there anyway you could make a new clear plate out of thin acrylic sheeting? Granted it would be difficult to get 100% accurate, but might be easier than tracking down a replacement for the time being.
I would think that would be possible to do. I would think the equipment to properly and accurately cut it would be the issue. Edges aren't crisp right angles but, rounded and smooth, etc. Perhaps 3D printing would be the answer?
Quote from: david@london on December 25, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
benny -
here's a pdf of a scan of a designation card you could print out (below).
like Al, i wasn't much of a fan of these keysets in the past, but they're now definitely on the 'would like' list.
David,
It's always difficult for me to take a PDF like you shared and print it the proper size I can use. This time was the exception. I printed it full size from the PDF, put it into the printer and reprinted it at 49%, trimmed it and it was perfect! I did try it first at 50% and it was a tick too large.
Thanks for the link, it looks great!
Benny
Benny, nice phone. I have one just like it, in green, and even beige... the phone uses #51 lamps for the lamp strip. Most of the time you can find them on ebay, but lately I've noticed not a lot of them being listed. you might be able to use #12 ESB lamps, but they are a bit longer and don't always fit the phone. they also now have LED bulb replacements for these phones... in assorted colors too...(red, green, blue, amber, white) you'll have to do some searching on the web for those, I have seen them, but can't remember who sold them.... as for the extra wires, they probably are for the Exclusion key (optional item) good luck with the phone... I love mine... my beige one is NOS from ITT and I love it....
Quote from: Pourme on January 01, 2018, 03:57:54 PM
I would think that would be possible to do. I would think the equipment to properly and accurately cut it would be the issue. Edges aren't crisp right angles but, rounded and smooth, etc. Perhaps 3D printing would be the answer?
I have always wondered about the trouble I could get myself into with a 3D printer, whipping up parts for this and that... You do at least have the original as a template. I'm sure if you used jewelers files or similar, you could make a passable attempt a t rounding the edges. Or leave them straight as cut. That way it still serves as a decent stand in. Although if making new ones could be perfected, there would be a small market for them for sure.
Most keysets, even AE's seemed to have provision for a bulb in the hold button but I know if no use for it other than it is essentially a spare bulb holder for the phones line key lamps.
Terry
I use mine for power indication. that way I know the unit is working... the hold key light was originally used for message waiting purposes... in a large setup, the secretary would have a 10/20 lamp panel that they could set individual phones on MW status...
Quote from: Pourme on January 01, 2018, 11:35:33 AM
Edit: BTW what are those taped off wires likely to be?
Benny
These are the B (Balance) leads for 1A Key for lines 2-5.
In 1A1 or 1A2 Key, only one A1 lead is needed regardless of the number of lines. However, with the older 1A Key, a B lead is needed for each line.
Y (Yellow) = A1 for all lines or B for 1st line
BR-R (Brown-Red) = B for 2nd line
BR-BL (Brown-Blue) = B for 3rd line
R-BK (Red-Black) = B for 4th line
GN-BK (Green-Black) = B for 5th line
Lot of valuable information here, both for myself and others now and as a reference for future key phone users...thanks everyone!
Benny
you're welcome! be sure to checkout the TCI library... all the information you could ever need on telephones... www.telephonecollectors.org (or is it .com??) oh well... anyway check it out!
benny -
it looks great.
have you tried phonecoinc.com for the numbercard cover? it might be worth emailing.
Quote from: david@london on January 02, 2018, 01:16:07 PM
benny -
it looks great.
have you tried phonecoinc.com for the numbercard cover? it might be worth emailing.
No I haven't... thanks I'll take a look!
go through old phone works, they have better prices.