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Title: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: allnumbedup on December 19, 2021, 08:15:29 AM
I am wondering if anyone can help me out by telling me what gauge and thread pitch was used for the tiny bolts that hold the frame together on AE pay phone top flags.  Ideally I would like to find 4 slotted chromed ones on line but they are smaller than the 32nd on an inch sizer on my gauge and at the hardware store so I don't know what to look for.. (I have Phillips head ones and the one has a mangled face.) thanks JC




Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: poplar1 on December 19, 2021, 07:25:46 PM
There are other members who can say for certain. My guess is that they are slotless head 4-36 screws with hex nuts. A hardware store probably has only 4-40, slotted or Phillips head.
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: Stan S on December 19, 2021, 08:40:55 PM
If you are referring to the four screws that hold the frame to the L portion of the top flag I always use 2:56X 1/8 Phillips head screws. They are available on ebay in both chrome and black oxide.
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: kleenax on December 20, 2021, 10:25:50 AM
As David (poplar1) says, they are #2-56 and 3/16" in length. I don't like using ANY phillips head screws in my older phones just because they have a much too "modern" look to them. I have these in both stainless steel and brass. I chemically blacken the brass examples to give them a more authentic look. If you want to buy your own, they are offered on McMaster-Carr by the -100- pack. If you only want 4 or 8 or so, I can send you some. Photo attached. I got these from Otis LeVier many, many years ago.
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: Doug Rose on December 20, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: kleenax on December 20, 2021, 10:25:50 AM
  I got these from Otis LeVier many, many years ago.

Odis was a Gentleman and a friend to the collector. He is surely missed....Doug
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: allnumbedup on December 20, 2021, 05:21:43 PM
thanks for the helpful info, all.  I found several offering on ebay for this size including a packaging especially for collectors of hotwheels who use them to attach custom wheels to their cars apparently.  Kleenex, The McCaster-Carr website is great.  I will definitely be putting an order in there for all my current and future fastener needs.  Do you get any other sizes from them you might recommend because they are especially good for phone restorations? 
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: kleenax on December 20, 2021, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: allnumbedup on December 20, 2021, 05:21:43 PM
thanks for the helpful info, all.  I found several offering on ebay for this size including a packaging especially for collectors of hotwheels who use them to attach custom wheels to their cars apparently.  Kleenex, The McCaster-Carr website is great.  I will definitely be putting an order in there for all my current and future fastener needs.  Do you get any other sizes from them you might recommend because they are especially good for phone restorations? 
I use McMaster-Carr for just about all of my machine screw needs. The 1/4" - 28 slotted head screws are used in several places on Western Electric pay telephones, especially the vault door lock mounting. #6-40 screws are also another often used size, as are #8-32, etc
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: allnumbedup on January 01, 2022, 04:31:06 PM
Kleenax--got some from your source and they worked great. thanks for the tip. JC
Title: Re: What size are the tiny Top Flag bolts
Post by: kleenax on January 01, 2022, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: allnumbedup on January 01, 2022, 04:31:06 PM
Kleenax--got some from your source and they worked great. thanks for the tip. JC
Excellent! But my name is Ray; "Kleenax" is just my super-hero disguise name ;-)
Really happy that I could help. I have searched this planet for a LOT of items (including people, but that is a different thread:), and am glad to lend a hand unless you ask me WHERE I find my Morel Mushrooms in Michigan.