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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Telephone Mike on May 21, 2012, 11:21:41 PM

Title: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 21, 2012, 11:21:41 PM
When I found this phone, it was covered with dirt and mud, full of bugs and spider webs, the dial was stuck and it was just a general scratched up mess.  I hate to (love to) brag, but after many months of cleaning, polishing, fixing, gathering parts and then doing it all over again, I finally completed the restoration of this beautiful AE50. After much diligent searching, I came up with the hard to find chrome package, especially the chrome banded spit cup.  Don't know if it was ever on the original phone but sure looks sweet.  It talks and hears like a new phone, the dial is smooth and after cleaning and  adjusting, hasn't failed and I love the ring of these old phones.  It's listed on Ebay and although I hate to part with it,  I'm going on a fishing trip and hopefully this phone will help pay for it.
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: LarryInMichigan on May 21, 2012, 11:28:49 PM
The phone looks great, and I believe that the handset is quite rare.  I don't actually recall ever seeing one like it before.

Larry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 21, 2012, 11:57:18 PM
Telephone Mike ,
                        Sweeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!! Great job!  stub
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: jsowers on May 22, 2012, 08:24:03 AM
My grandmother, who lived next door, had an AE50 with a spitcup handset like that, but without the chrome trim or chrome fingerwheel. So yes, those handsets did come on those phones. I wish I had that phone now!

Great phone. Mike. Good luck getting that fishing trip. Granny liked to fish too!
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: LarryInMichigan on May 22, 2012, 09:16:56 AM
Mike,

Where on ebay is it?  I cannot find it with a search.

Larry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
Larry,

Type this item number - 290715891977 - in the Ebay search bar and it should come up.

Mike
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 12:41:49 PM
It sure is a beauty. I have never seen a spitcup on that model AE handset either?...Doug

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290715891977
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: LarryInMichigan on May 22, 2012, 12:52:13 PM
I expect that the handset is going to drive the price really high.

Larry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 12:56:15 PM
Where is the AE Collector and Moderator of the AE  ::) phone find of the month to comment on this cool handset Hasn't an AE phone won everytime this year ???

This could be another AE  ;D Find of the month. Right Terry???


All kidding aside....this handset is amazing and as Larry said, sure makes the phone. It is already over what I thought it would go for....great phone....Doug
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Thanks for all the kind words guys.  I really have put a lot of time into this phone and do hate to see it go but am working on a 40 now with my eyes on another 50.  Keeps me out of trouble.

Mike
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: AE_Collector on May 22, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 12:56:15 PM
This could be another AE  ;D Find of the month. Right Terry???

Great idea Doug! "The AE Find of the Month!" I'll ask Dennis to set up a new board ASAP.

I'll have to ask the R&D Department (Stub) to invstigate his AE catalog's further and report back. I have seen the Type 41 handset with that spitcup transmitter cap occasionally but it is pretty rare. I was going to say that I don't have one but now I am starting to think that maybe I did get a beat up handset with that cap on it several years ago and never got around to putting it onto a display phone. I'll have to investigate further.

As Stub mentioned, it was available on late model AE 34's (is there a picture of a 34 with this handset in a catalog Stub?) so if that is correct it would appear that it is potentially the first version of the Type 41 handset.

Terry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 22, 2012, 04:43:09 PM
The handset was made for the 34A3B .  Pics are from a photocopy of AE 4055 C  1940 catalog, pg. 48 , 16 , and 55.
The manual set on pg. 16 shows just a little bit of the spitcup. The parts list ( not shown )on pg. 48 , list it as a  Type 41 handset  AF-55.  In the AE 4055 A Catalog  1937 the only handsets there are Type 38, so I guess it is the 1st 41.   stub
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Ken/Terry....very impressive indeed....you can teach an old doug a new trick  ???
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 22, 2012, 05:03:42 PM
Doug Rose ,
                  Sorry for the washed out photos but ink was low that day.

Telephone Mike ,
                         Can you post us some more photos of the spitcup at diffrent angles before you get it sold ?  Thanks,   stub
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
Here you go.
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 05:14:30 PM
More
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 05:18:03 PM
One more, having trouble with the pics
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: AE_Collector on May 22, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Ken/Terry....very impressive indeed....you can teach an old doug a new trick  ???

Even more impresssive in my mind is the pictures and scans that Stub posts on here......and he uses dial-up internet!

Mike: How about inside the transmitter end of the handset? I'm assuming that it is just like a regular type 41 handset but can we have a picture of the capsule front and back as well as the spot it sits in? Not asking for much am I?

Terry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Doug Rose on May 22, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
I'd like to see it apart as well.....many thanks....Doug
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Telephone Mike on May 22, 2012, 07:13:15 PM
No problem, I'd like to find out about this as well.  Notice the notch in the cup in pictures 1 and 3.  There is one on each side and they fit over the ears that hold the transmitter in place as seen in picture 6 and that keeps the cup from turning. 
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: AE_Collector on May 22, 2012, 07:20:03 PM
Very easy to see how this design to keep the cup from spinning came about from the predecessor type 38 handset that was used on AE 1, 34, 35 and others.

Thanks for the extra pictures. Thinking about it more, I don't believe that I have one of these. It was a black brass banded (rather than chrome banded) handset that I was thinking of. They are rare as well but not as rare as this one.

Terry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: rdelius on May 23, 2012, 10:12:29 PM
I think  AE called this the Sound booster .
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: AE_Collector on May 23, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
I wonder then if it wasn't part of the progression of the 41 handset but more of a specialty item to cut background noise or something similar?

Terry
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 07, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
 rdelius ,
      Your right rdelius, pics are from a photocopy of AE 4055 C  1940 catalog, pg 55 , showing # 10 and #11 other info is same Catalog pg 7. These were available on the 1940's AE 40 , 50 and 34A3B .
Terry,
       Your right also on the specialty item , it was for extremely long lines and in the 4055 F catalog it looks like you could get that handset by request on several AE phones- 40,43, 44, 50. I have one in black trim. stub  
                                      Sorry it took almost a year to get back to this thread

         
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Dan/Panther on May 07, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
Isn't that pretty much the same handset as used on the RedBar, but with a different transmitter spit cup, and bands added ?
D/P
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 07, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
Dan/Panther ,
                 That pic is a AE type 41 handset as far as I can tell , I thought the one that goes on a redbar, the band was narrower and the trx and rec ends on the handset were bulbous?
                 Hey , you gonna visit TN this year?   stub
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Dan/Panther on May 08, 2013, 12:45:13 AM
Stub;
We are considering a move there.
I have two Redbars, and they have different hand sets. One may not be original. The one I posted is from a metal body.
Here are shots of both. Is either correct, I'm not an AE guy. The second photo looks just like the one posted doesn't it ?
D/P
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: stub on May 08, 2013, 01:21:40 AM
 Dan/Panther ,
                     Your 1st pic (CIMG1939) is a AE type 41 handset. The 2nd pic (CIMG1940) looks like correct Kellogg handset. I have seen them with the WE  F1  handset on them also.    stub
Title: Re: Proud of my AE50
Post by: Jim Stettler on May 08, 2013, 04:52:09 PM
I agree with stub, KE receivers also came with a couple of different spit cups



Jim