Connecticut Telephone 1000-xx "Toaster"

[TelePlay]

This phone was listed as a WE on eBay because it had an F1W handset. It's not but what is it? The F1W handset caps are both CTE, the transmitter and receiver elements are CTE with 6-51 MFP date stamps, the dial is a WE 4-51 5H and the plate on the base states it is a "Telephone 1000-JD / 1001-KD / 1011-KD." Everything inside the phone, other than the dial, is CTE, the ringer, the network coil and the capacitor. It's a 302 but with CTE parts. The handset itself may have been replaced because the cord mounting screws in the transmitter end show tool marks and the rubber bushing where the cord goes into the handset is missing.

The standard "Signal Corp" stamp is not on the back of the metal shell but the base has and SAC vermillion stamp. The number card was turned over but reveals this phone was used in "Building 1." The phone was shipped from Clark Mills, New York, which is about 30 miles east of Syracuse.

It's a post war "Toaster" but what do I have here? It's not a TP-6-A so what is it and what's it worth - be honest.

[rdelius]

Civilian sets uasually were 1000 series.TP6A was the military designation for many single line sets of different companies. C T E might have used left over military parts on this one

[G-Man]

It's simply a military1000-series telephone manufactured during the Korean Conflict, under contract for the Signal Corps as indicated by the stamp.

The components were supplied by and number of subcontractors and at one time Connecticut Telephone had a licensing agreement with Western Electric to manufacture actual 302 instruments.

Every once in a while a colored 302 will show up on eBay that in fact was manufactured by Connecticut. They even made exact clones of WECo 1011 buttsets.

Western Electric even purchased Connecticut instruments and handsets for use by the Bell Companies.

In response to how much are they worth, just watch this eBay auction over the next several hours and see if anyone purchases this telephone for the amount listed. If they do then it would be worth at least that amount.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1011-KD-1001-KD-1000-JD-Telephone-Vintage-Art-Deco-Cast-Aluminum-Rotary-Phone-/121256044824?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3b6c6918 ( dead link 04-13-21 )

[G-Man]

I forgot to note that the telephone in the eBay auction uses an A.E. dial and handset.

As I previously stated, "The components were supplied by and number of subcontractors."

[G-Man]

As a side-note, here is a description of the seven telephone sets that the Signal Corps designated as TP-6 instruments:

3. TP-6 Desk-Type Telephone Sets

a. Telephone TP- (figs. 2 through 15). Telephone
TP-6 represents seven models of desk-type telephone
sets. These are cradle-type telephone sets that can be
converted from manual to dial operation by installing a
dial. They can be used with party-ringing or a metallic
ringing circuit and include an antisidetone circuit.

Although these equipments may be interchanged with
one another in an existing telephone system, the parts
with a few exceptions, are not interchangeable among
the various models. Note that several of these
equipments that are classified as Telephone TP-6 have
individual official nomenclature. It has been common
practice in the past to refer to these telephone sets as
TP-6 types; this practice is retained in this manual. The
table below indicates the abbreviated form of the
commercial name, official nomenclature (if any), and the
figure references for each of the seven types.


Western Electric Co. No. 302AW-3
Auto Elec No. 40 
Kellogg Switchboard & Supply Co. 925BAX  [Ashtray]
Stromberg-Carlson Co. No. 1222BW   [Fatboy]
North Electric Mfg. Co. No. 3H6SL*
North Electric Mfg Co. No. H-600SL* 
Stromberg-Carlson Co. No. 1242WA   

*Although these telephone sets have different commercial names, there are only minor mechanical differences between them. The parts, circuits, and color-codes are identical for both equipments.

The TP-6-A was designed by the Signal Corps and was manufactured by a number of manufacturerers including Connecticut. 

[TelePlay]

Thanks. Good to know.

Up until now, there was no mention of the civilian 1000 toaster on the forum. The Signal Corps stamp must have been applied just prior to painting if it were going to the military. It fits with the shortages after the war that phones were put together with available parts.

Even though I haven't been doing well price wise on eBay lately, at least I buy what I like. At least this phone's cords are in good shape and it's all there. Didn't get bitten on this except for the price.

I also see that if chromed up they sell for near $400 but I like them better in black.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200992544775

[poplar1]

As a side-note, here is a description of the seven telephone sets that the Signal Corps designated as TP-6 instruments:

3. TP-6 Desk-Type Telephone Sets

a. Telephone TP- (figs. 2 through 15). Telephone
TP-6 represents seven models of desk-type telephone
sets. These are cradle-type telephone sets that can be
converted from manual to dial operation by installing a
dial. They can be used with party-ringing or a metallic
ringing circuit and include an antisidetone circuit.

Although these equipments may be interchanged with
one another in an existing telephone system, the parts
with a few exceptions, are not interchangeable among
the various models. Note that several of these
equipments that are classified as Telephone TP-6 have
individual official nomenclature. It has been common
practice in the past to refer to these telephone sets as
TP-6 types; this practice is retained in this manual. The
table below indicates the abbreviated form of the
commercial name, official nomenclature (if any), and the
figure references for each of the seven types.


Western Electric Co. No. 302AW-3
Auto Elec No. 40 
Kellogg Switchboard & Supply Co. 925BAX  [Ashtray]
Stromberg-Carlson Co. No. 1222BW   [Fatboy]
North Electric Mfg. Co. No. 3H6SL*
North Electric Mfg Co. No. H-600SL* 
Stromberg-Carlson Co. No. 1242WA   

*Although these telephone sets have different commercial names, there are only minor mechanical differences between them. The parts, circuits, and color-codes are identical for both equipments.

The TP-6-A was designed by the Signal Corps and was manufactured by a number of manufacturerers including Connecticut. 

1222 looks just like 1242/1243--metal, rectangular-- but has individual induction coil and condenser instead of a network.
1212 is oval, Bakelite--christened the "Fat Boy" probably by Ron Knappen