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Title: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ended 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 17, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
New forum members are very welcome and encouraged to take a guess. After all, there are no wrong guesses, just one lucky one. No one knows the winning bid on any auction until it ends. However, it is important to get your guess in before someone else grabs your guess.

Listed about 4 hours ago in a 7 day auction with no reserve and starting at $39.99 ( with thanks to LarryInMichigan for the tip ) is another rare telephone than the one seen in Auction Contest 292. This phone is a complete WE pink 1712 B Princess Interphone dated 4-65. The seller provided an array of external only images. It seems to be in overall good condition. Since being listed, the phone received 2 bids from 2 buyers raising the price to $45.00. It will go higher but again the question is who best knows what the phone will sell for when the auction ends? And with the last auction exposing a relative market value, the guesses should be a bit higher this time around.

NOTE:  We will use a $5.00 gap rule between guesses to prevent crowding. As such, keep your guess at least $5.00 away from prior guesses for this contest. All guesses, original and a single allowed revised guess if needed, must be submitted at least 24 hours before the auction ends.

The seller listed it as a "Vintage Western Electric Bell System Pink Princess 10 Button 2 Line Telephone" with the item condition as "Used" and "All original unusual old princess phone..." and with the auction listing description saying simply "Nice dated 1965 pink version of the Princess push button phone in good shape.....The model on this one is 1712B, and in addition to being a pretty early 10 button pushbutton model, this is a 2 line phone with an external ringer unit, everything you see is included.....The phone itself has a G3 handset, its original coil cord and the long pink cord that runs to the ringer box.....Phone is in good shape with no chips or cracks to the plastic, not faded funny or other issues, the hang up buttons are mismatched, but you could switch lines using those buttons, so I think they are original also.....The ringer box is marked as shown on the back, nice that its matching in pink, but it has a bunch of paint spatter that will need removed......I have no idea if its working or not, its untested, but a very nice and original set up of an unusual model phone....Hopefully a good find for a collector or to be fixed up and put back to work"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/253159368363

It's another chance to move up a rung or to get onto the CRPF -> Contest Standings <- (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=4198.0) list,

     . . . for as twocvbloke said,   ---> "You gotta be in it to win it !!!" ;D "

If you want to see the phones of past Auction Contests, click -> HERE <- (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=17437.msg180238#msg180238)


S C O R E B O A R D

$    510.00 - tallguy58  ( 17 )
$    659.50 - zapper  ( 5 )
$    700.00 - Pourme  ( 15 )
$    750.00 - Sargeguy  ( 8 )
$    777.00 - skyrider  ( 1 )
$    800.00 - wds  ( 19 )
$    805.00 - Fabius  ( 20 )
$    850.00 - HarrySmith  ( 14 )
$    888.00 - Duffy  ( 18 )  -> WINNER - Final Selling Price $910.00[/color]
$ 1,100.00 - Jim S.  ( 16 )
$ 1,257.00 - Russ Kirk  ( 7 )
$ 1,411.00 - TelePlay  ( 21 )
$ 1,565.00 - 19and41  ( 11 )
$ 1,999.00 - compubit  ( 13 )
$ 3,250.00 - WEBellSystemChristian  ( 6 )

$    275.00 - Fabius  ( 3 )
$    850.00 - HarrySmith  ( 2 )
$ 1,100.00 - Jim S.  ( 4 )
$ 1,669.00 - Jim S.  ( 12 )
$ 2,650.00 - HarrySmith  ( 10 )
$ 3,000.00 - Pourme  ( 9 )


Early Morning Auction Status

09-17-17      Listed      $     39.99
09-18-17      2 bids      $     45.00  ( 2 bidders & 35 - #7 )
09-19-17      8 bids      $   810.00  ( 5 bidders & 46 - #2 )
09-20-17      6 bids      $   102.50  ( 4 bidders & 54 - #1 )  ( 2 bids retracted early morning )
09-21-17    11 bids      $   202.50  ( 5 bidders & 54 - #1 )
09-22-17    19 bids      $   670.00  ( 6 bidders & 61 - #1 )
09-23-17    19 bids      $   670.00  ( 6 bidders & 64 - #1 )
09-24-17    20 bids      $   670.00  ( 6 bidders & 68 - #1 )
09-24-17      7 bidders, 22 bids, $910.00  Ended at 12:51:22PM PDT
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: skyrider on September 17, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
$777.00.  Thank You
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: HarrySmith on September 17, 2017, 08:32:42 PM
$850.00
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Fabius on September 17, 2017, 09:14:54 PM
$275
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Jim Stettler on September 17, 2017, 09:22:01 PM
$1100.00
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: zapper on September 17, 2017, 09:24:16 PM
$659.50
Zapper
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on September 17, 2017, 10:18:55 PM
$3250
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Russ Kirk on September 18, 2017, 05:51:18 PM
$1257
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Sargeguy on September 18, 2017, 08:08:59 PM
$750
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 18, 2017, 08:50:52 PM
I thought Christian was a bit overly optimistic in his guess but within the last hour, it jumped to $510 with 5 days to go.

Color and phone type will drive this one.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Pourme on September 19, 2017, 07:01:29 AM
Now (bid is) $810.00!
I'm going to join Christian in the thin air.

$3,000.00 please
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: HarrySmith on September 19, 2017, 07:03:09 AM
Second guess $2650.00
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 19, 2017, 11:12:22 AM
Found this 1960 Interphone ad while looking for something else.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: 19and41 on September 19, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
$1565.00  Please.  I guess late was the right time to take a stab at it.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Jim Stettler on September 19, 2017, 04:46:43 PM
Changing guess to $1,669.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: compubit on September 19, 2017, 07:44:54 PM
$1999!

Jim
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 20, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
Not sure what to do here. One buyer retracted two of his bids early this morning. As such, the current bid is now $102.50, quite a bit lower than the $810 it was yesterday.

Seeing the retracted bids, two of them, which were $1,000 and a not so surprising $30,000, leaves the high bidder as c***- ( 538 ) who by seeing the retracted bids exposes his high bid of about $800.

I guess the best thing to do is to offer another second guess to anyone who has already placed a second guess (all two of you).

Or better yet, I will let anyone change their guesses without counting or limits. As such you can change your guess 10 times as long as the last guess or guess change is submitted at least 24 hours before the auction ends. Just put your revised guess as a new reply so I don't miss it (I don't scan existing replies for changes).

I've often wondered how high those "got to have at any price so will bid high" snipes and early contests bids that end up winning really are. Even if a mistake was made, but I doubt it, $30,000 is a number I've considered as being an option of one really wants a phone and can afford to pay for it goes in with to insure winning the phone.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Sargeguy on September 20, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Looks like some classic bid manipulation going on!
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: 19and41 on September 20, 2017, 01:09:03 PM
I think I'll stay with my initial guess.  It's Hard telling where things will end once the sniping starts.  :)

Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: HarrySmith on September 20, 2017, 03:17:58 PM
I think I will return to my original number of $850.00.
I may adjust that in the next 3 days!
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Pourme on September 20, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
In light of Mr MoneyBags getting cold feet I will revise mine to $700.00
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Jim Stettler on September 20, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
I would like to go back to the more realistic  $1,100.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: tallguy58 on September 20, 2017, 11:17:08 PM
$510
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 21, 2017, 12:38:39 AM
A new bidder has surfaced who with 5 bids has raised the price to $205.00, not topping the exposed high bid posted above. The buyer who retracted their bid has not bid.

Question to the eBay experts:  If you retract a bid, can you still bid on the item after that or are they locked out of that auction?
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 22, 2017, 12:23:27 AM
This is the wackiest auction contest I've seen/done.

Having bid on this phone when it was first listed, is that why I see the retracted bids? Are they not visible to those who did not bid on the phone? Don't know.

Anyway, it's up to $670 as of now and the buyer that placed the $800 bid 3 days ago is still the top bidder. Two more buyers came in and have been bidding it up but have not yet topped that $800 bid.

Two and a half days to go so that leaves a day and a half to get your first, second, third or whatever guess in.

Given the wide open guesses, the deadline for last guesses will be exactly 24 hours before the auction ends. That would be Saturday at 12:51:22 PM PDT (3:51:22 PM Eastern DST).

I've been in touch with the seller and he's shaking his head and laughing at this auction as well. This will be one interesting auction to watch end. Don't have a clue what 5 bidders plus a few in the weeds waiting for the last 10 seconds and the 61 watchers will do the the final price.

Time will tell . . .
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: ..... on September 22, 2017, 03:38:17 AM
$888.00 For me.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: wds on September 22, 2017, 02:56:40 PM
$800
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: Fabius on September 22, 2017, 09:51:42 PM
Revised: $805
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ends 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 23, 2017, 03:50:35 PM
$1,411

That's a wrap on this contest. Exactly 24 hours to the end of the auction so the guessing/changing window is now closed.

Quite a range of guesses. Should be interesting to see how this ends.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ended 09-24-17
Post by: TelePlay on September 24, 2017, 04:14:52 PM
And the winner of Auction Contest #293 is Duffy who with the 18th entry into the contest offered the winning guess of $888.00 giving him his 2nd auction contest win. A win long time in coming since his first win in #186 which makes it all the sweeter for him. So, a big congratulations go out to Duffy for another CRPF Auction Contest win and for moving up one rung in the Contest Standings.

This roller coaster auction saw its ups and downs and ups but at end time, it finished without even one whimper. The phone started the day at $670 and stayed there a new buyer entered with a bid that topped the already exposed high bid by c***- of $800 thanks to the bid retraction of that $30,000 high bid by t***a. Looking at the retractions, that buyer placed a $1,000 bid 2 days after he placed the $30,000 bid, retracted them both on the 20th and never came back to the auction. Might have been a mistake or price fixing. With a feedback score of 3110, I'd lean to mistake but I don't know. In the end, the phone was won by e***l ( 230 ) with a  high bid topping $880 place about a half hour before the auction ended and then upped the high bid about 15 minutes before end time. There were no snipes which surprised me so when the wheel of fortune stopped for the seller, it was  e***l ( 230 ) who took the phone home for $910. The auction saw 7 buyers placing 22 bids.

Check out the updated Contest Standings (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=4198.msg51445#msg51445) to see who's who through 293 contests and the latest additions to the CRPF Hall of Fame (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=138.msg976#msg976)

Thanks again to all who played. As always, there is only one way to get on the winner's board or move up a rung - you have to play to win.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ended 09-24-17
Post by: ..... on September 24, 2017, 06:04:47 PM
WOW, I won! How cool.
Title: Re: Auction 293: WE 1965 Pink 1712B Princess Home Interphone - Ended 09-24-17
Post by: Pourme on September 24, 2017, 06:38:43 PM
Quote from: Duffy on September 24, 2017, 06:04:47 PM
WOW, I won! How cool.

Congrats!