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#31
Technical "Stuff" / Re: The end of POTS?
Last post by 5415551212 - Yesterday at 08:16:41 PM
Quote from: TelePlay on Yesterday at 04:37:10 PMSomeone could write a book: "101 Ways to Loose a POTS Line"

Here's one, how it happened to me.

AT&T is putting FO in everywhere in my city. AT&T marked their desired path through my back yard utility easement to horizontal bore in a FO conduit.

Underground marking company marked all underground phone, gas and power lines.

Marking was not perfect.

The underground directional boring bit ran into a 50 pair phone cable and as the cable was wrapped around the bit, it pulled the cable out of the pedestal about 4 feet from the bit.

That cable was running to another pedestal about 50 feet away. That pedestal provided copper grid phone service to some 20 homes, including mine.

Service guy came out and ran 8 fifty foot long patch cables to reconnect the pedestals, restored service.

Talked to the technician. He told me they will most likely give buried FO to every home affected at no charge (they are not going to replace the now dead 50 pair cable).

They will install a new FO pedestal, bury a FO cable to my house, install whatever is needed in my basement including a new WiFi/internet/phone modem.

After all is done, POTS won't even be an option for me. The copper grid will be gone from my homes point of view. Will no longer even have a choice to keep copper or switch to FO service.

Have had copper VOIP for 5 years now and my 616 continues to give me rotary dial out abilities. Just no more copper coming into my house since this horizontal boring incident.


Wow what a hassle.
You'll hopefully get a decent speed boost on your internet.
#32
Does the crackling stop when you set the receiver down on a flat surface?

When the receiver is sitting on a flat surface, does the crackling appear when moving the coiled handset cord?

That's one way
to see if the cord or the handset is the issue.
#33
A likely culprit is a dirty hook switch, though it could be a bad wire in one of the cords, a bad solder connection on a PC board, or something else.  This is a modern Chinese product, much different than the vintage phones we like to fix here.
#34
Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / WE 554 won’t ring
Last post by keithi70 - Yesterday at 05:03:33 PM
The ringer on my WE 554 has been working great until today. It had been disconnected a few days so I could clean and detail the phone; I hooked it back up to my Ooma Telo today, called it from my cell phone, and now it won't ring. The only thing I've done to the phone in the last week is disassemble the receiver so I could polish it, but everything was hooked back up correctly, I have dial tone and can make calls - only the ringer has stopped working.

Here's a pic of the wiring inside the phone:

http s://fli c.kr/p/2pKSNxd

For what it's worth, the phone is running through a Dialgizmo to the Ooma Telo - haven't had any issues, although the Dialgizmo arrived damaged slightly a few weeks back and I had to fix it to get it working.
#35
Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / Re: 3554 ISSUE
Last post by HarrySmith - Yesterday at 04:50:22 PM
I do too. It is a cool looking phone in my opinion. I was thinking about adding one to my collection. I am not going to swap the network. I am going to hook the ringer to A & K and try it that way. Hopefully that will solve the issue. I will report back in a few days after he tries it out at home.
#36
Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / Re: 3554 ISSUE
Last post by Contempra - Yesterday at 04:46:24 PM
Well,I have a few ones like these phones and I love 'em .No problèm.
#37
Technical "Stuff" / Re: The end of POTS?
Last post by TelePlay - Yesterday at 04:37:10 PM
Someone could write a book: "101 Ways to Loose a POTS Line"

Here's one, how it happened to me.

AT&T is putting FO in everywhere in my city. AT&T marked their desired path through my back yard utility easement to horizontal bore in a FO conduit.

Underground marking company marked all underground phone, gas and power lines.

Marking was not perfect.

The underground directional boring bit ran into a 50 pair phone cable and as the cable was wrapped around the bit, it pulled the cable out of the pedestal about 4 feet from the bit.

That cable was running to another pedestal about 50 feet away. That pedestal provided copper grid phone service to some 20 homes, including mine.

Service guy came out and ran 8 fifty foot long patch cables to reconnect the pedestals, restored service.

Talked to the technician. He told me they will most likely give buried FO to every home affected at no charge (they are not going to replace the now dead 50 pair cable).

They will install a new FO pedestal, bury a FO cable to my house, install whatever is needed in my basement including a new WiFi/internet/phone modem.

After all is done, POTS won't even be an option for me. The copper grid will be gone from my homes point of view. Will no longer even have a choice to keep copper or switch to FO service.

Have had copper VOIP for 5 years now and my 616 continues to give me rotary dial out abilities. Just no more copper coming into my house since this horizontal boring incident.

#38
Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / Re: 3554 ISSUE
Last post by MMikeJBenN27 - Yesterday at 03:49:14 PM
I would swap in an older style "potted" network and have him try it out, and see that fixes the problem.

Mike
#39
General Discussion / Re: AT&T slimline 210
Last post by Stormcrash - Yesterday at 03:13:07 PM
Based on the buttons and other details this is a late 90s to early 2000s trimline. It's after the switch to hard plastic bigger buttons from the soft plastic rectangle ones, but before the ringer was moved into the handset and the screw holding the handset together replaced by all clips.

Quote from: neondave on March 21, 2024, 12:08:42 PMInteresting , still some landline users out there :D a few slight diff between 210 / 210M . Wonder where they are made now

The M in the currently made 210M stands for memory. There used to be 3 Trimline models in the 90s/2000s, the basic 210 with no memory, the 220 with 3 one touch redial buttons, and the 230 with the one touch buttons and 9 or ten number memory redial on the keypad. At some point the old 210 and 220 models were dropped and the 230 was renumbered as the 210M

As far as I know they are all made in China nowadays.
#40
Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / Re: 3554 ISSUE
Last post by HarrySmith - Yesterday at 03:01:56 PM
I connected the ringer to the same terminals I removed the original from. I did not even look at the terminals. I just checked and it is on L1 & L2.
The line is connected red & black to L1 & E2 and 2 white wires to GN & R, what are they for?
Network A has a gray wire from the hookswitch and K is empty? Should I move the ringer to A & K?
I never even looked at the wiring since it worked on my Panasonic.
It appears this is a different animal than I am used to working on. I count 7 wires off the hookswitch.