what make and model is this?

[mark9564]

I'm putting parts together for my box of junk that I purchased. Not sure if all these belong together but they all fit and it is what I had. Does it look like any phone model, there are no markings on the case , so that is no help.

[wds]

It looks like a AE phone with some WE parts on it.  The receiver arm and transmitter looks WE, the receiver is either WE or Am. E.  Maybe have been put together with various manufacturer parts. 

[mark9564]

I've got everything working except the dial, not a clue how it gets wired.

[wds]

Can you post a picture of the ringer side of the insides?

[unbeldi]

The dial in your phone is not the standard AE type found on AE phones, but is most likely compatible with the Western Electric 2H, 4H, 5H, and 6A dials, pending on verification that the four off-normal contacts indeed are a break (normally closed) and a make (normally open) pair.

In AE terms this would be an AK-29 type contact arrangement, with terminals W, BB, R, BK, BK, Y.   The two BK terminals are those that are bridged by the metal strap.

The dial pulse contacts are Y and BK (normally closed).  The make-pair is (BK, R), and the break-pair is (BB, W).

[HarrySmith]

Dial is AE. I have seen AE dials in WE phones before. Not difficult IIRC. Compare wiring diagrams and it should be fairly simple to work out.

[mark9564]

Here is the ringer

[mark9564]

So would it be easier if I got a WE dial?

[unbeldi]

So would it be easier if I got a WE dial?

No, it's the same amount of work.  This dial is completely compatible with an WECo dial, but do need to confirm the exact function of the off-normal contacts, the picture is only so clear... if you provide a close-up shot of just the contacts, it will probably become a certainty.

[mark9564]

Hope this is good enough.

[dsk]

Maybe BTMC, Standard Electric ?

[poplar1]

The hookswitch contacts are also WE, and it looks like a WE 7A transmitter mount. Is it possible that this was a WE 333A non-dial wall set, and an independent shop converted it to dial? The wood terminal strip in the base is somewhat  like those found in a WE 533A or 534A.

[mark9564]

So is it possible to hook up the dial?

[unbeldi]

There should be an induction coil under that wooden terminal block in the subset. Does it have a number on it?

[mark9564]

Automatic electric co. D68197A  1MF  LO