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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: LarryInMichigan on December 21, 2009, 09:10:21 PM

Title: I can't stop buying phones - Redbar just arrived
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 21, 2009, 09:10:21 PM
I have been wanting a Kellogg Redbar, so I couldn't resist.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150397880716 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150397880716)

For the meager picture, it looks to be in good condition.  It seems that Kellogg Redbars tend to be somewhat expensive, so $20 didn't seem like a bad price.

Larry
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: gpo706 on December 21, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Larry, you and I need an "intervention", I can't go onto ebay without buying a spring widget for a GPO whatever.

But like you some auctions are too tempting, and this looks like a really lovely phone and at that price I would have no compunction.

Obviously the seller was out of their depth, thought it was german.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 22, 2009, 06:26:39 AM
I can't imagine what about a Kellogg phone looks German being that they were made in my hometown, Chicago.  The area where the seller is is heavily populated by German immigrants, so perhaps that explains it.

Larry
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: ntophones on December 22, 2009, 11:10:54 AM
What a nice looking phone! And, what a great price!
I think you're doing well--keep up the good work!  :D
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: HobieSport on December 22, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
Congratulations Larry on getting your Redbar phone at such a good price. They are very cool phones. I've attached a pdf file of a nifty pamphlet on the Redbar design from 1947.

I have one Redbar phone among my many various black phones and the design of the Redbar really stands out from the others. Very classy. The only other phone that stands out that much in in my collection with it's design is the Dutch HEEMAF phone.  By the way, if you're ever interested in getting a HEEMAF phone, they can be had inexpensively ($20 or so) with a little patience, since as I recall, Radio Shack imported and refurbished lot's and lots of Dutch HEEMAF and PTT phones, I think it was in the 1970s.

Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on December 22, 2009, 03:43:37 PM
Larry, I  noticed the Redbar you bought has the little white button at the top.  I'm not sure what that's for...some kind of intercom button?
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 22, 2009, 06:30:59 PM
Dennis,

I do not know what the button does, but I am anxious to find out (and let everyone else know).  I have seen other redbar phones on-line with those buttons, so I don't think that it was an end-user modification.  I imagine that its presence may have discouraged some people from bidding on the phone.

Larry
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on December 22, 2009, 06:49:21 PM
Larry, I've also seen that button on the North Electric "Galion" phone (Model 7H6) too.  Perhaps that button changed the model designation, I don't know.  But as you say, it does NOT appear to be an end-user modification.  Perhaps someone here knows.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 22, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
Dennis,

I believe that I have the answer: http://www.strombergcarlsontelephone.com/selectophone/selectophoneindex.htm (http://www.strombergcarlsontelephone.com/selectophone/selectophoneindex.htm).


Larry
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on December 22, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
That looks like it Larry.  Now that you pointed it out I have heard of Select-o-Phone but have no experience at all with them.  It will be interesting to see yours when the phone arrives.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: bwanna on December 22, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
very nice, larry. i passed on a redbar for 35$ this fall. i've regretted ever since. :-\

do not forget this is not an addiction, no interventions needed. we are all members of PETT...(people for the ethical treatment of telephones) 8)

a fellow antique dealer recently told me she has a very rare telephone, from a mansion in grosse pointe. it was made in battle creek, especially for the cereal people :o ::) ::)...
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 22, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
Do you suppose that the phone will go well with milk and perhaps sliced banana :D?
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: HobieSport on December 22, 2009, 08:24:42 PM
"PETT". Lol

Bwanna, I think I paid around $35 for my Kellog Redbar. You might even find one cheaper if you're just patient. They are really nice phones. I love the styling as well as the nifty modular component system. Very well thought out design overall.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: Jim Stettler on December 22, 2009, 08:55:24 PM
I have always liked the redbar,  I really like the wall version.  There were a couple of different colors as well.

The desk and wall version use the same base. The housing is the only difference, swapping is as simple as pulling a plug.
They also made the redbar with a clearbar. I have never heard of a clear housing redbar set But I would like to find one.


I just checked Paul F.'s site under phones in color.
I have decided I need a purple/white swirl clearbar to tie my clear and swirl collections together. If anyone has this set I will trade well for it.

Jim S.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones
Post by: Tonyrotary on December 22, 2009, 11:03:03 PM
Good price on a nice phone! The redbar is high on my list to get.
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones - Redbar just arrived
Post by: LarryInMichigan on January 08, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
I received the Select-o-phone Redbar today, and it looks to be in very good condition, but there is no dial tone.  I see that the coil module is marked "36-A", and the wiring diagram for the standard redbar shows coil "113-A".  Does anyone know what the difference is?  Do I need to change the coil module to make this work on a normal phone line?

Larry
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones - Redbar just arrived
Post by: Jim Stettler on January 09, 2010, 12:24:26 PM
ISTM that a select-o-phone can't be easily modified to be a regular phone. I think the dial works differently also.

I would just keep it original and try to find a sales demo select-o-phone unit (long shot), if you want to make it work.

I saw a sales demo unit in action at a phone show once. You could use it for home or business automation. You could make phone calls, turn on lights, activate buzzers ect.

Select-o-phones were originally made by screw machine products co. and date back to 1916. They were eventually bought by Kellogg and I think the demo unit I saw was a Kellogg-ITT (1952).
Over the years I have seen 6-8 different select-o-phones change hands including metal wall phones, candlesticks, an AE round base and others.

There was also another company called Select-a-phone. This company was separate and not affiliated with select-o-phone.
To further confuse the issue there was also a selectaphone company that wasn't affiliated with either.

The company info comes from ATCA "Fact Sheets". These were published years ago with the info coming from company publications. Sadly the publications aren't referenced on the fact sheets.

Jim S.


>>EDIT>>   11/23/21   I think ATCA has the fact sheets online now. I also think they list the sources now. I am not sure though <<EDIT<<
Title: Re: I can't stop buying phones - Redbar just arrived
Post by: talkingtime on January 09, 2010, 01:33:24 PM
My working Kellogg redbar has the number 113-a coil.