Got this AE 802 and I need help. First, it won't ring. Second, I get a dial tone, but after I dial one number or two, it hangs up.
It is the model 802 that has the printed circuit card that hold the transformer, and all the connection are made to. I did find a print online.
Thanks,
Tony
Quote from: trainman on February 09, 2009, 08:14:34 AM
Got this AE 802 and I need help. First, it won't ring. Second, I get a dial tone, but after I dial one number or two, it hangs up.
It is the model 802 that has the printed circuit card that hold the transformer, and all the connection are made to. I did find a print online.
Thanks,
Tony
Hey Tony--you from the antiqueradios forum? Your name seems familiar?
First off, to try to get it to ring--does this have the original line cord with a red, yellow and green wires coming out of it? If so, connect the yellow and green together at the wall jack (both put under the green screw connection).
The dialing issues sound like dirty or out-of-whack dial contacts. How long does the dial take to "return"? In other words, when dialing "0", it should take a hair over 1 second to return once you let go of the finger wheel.
i'm on ARF.
The dia returns swiftly, in my opinion.
If the dial is running at the correct speed (11 pulses per second, or about a second for the dial to return from "0"), you might want to clean all the leaf spring contacts on the back of the dial and make sure they're aligned to each other properly. Also clean the spade lugs on the ends of the conductors coming from the dial and make sure the ends are attached tightly to the board or network. It sounds like the pulses from the dial are getting muddled somewhere along the line.
how do I know if the contacts are making in the correct order? I think that cam that turns with the dial is out of wack. The cam never seems to return to the same place everytime you return the dial, if it is supposed to do that.
After some trial and error, I got it to dial without hanging up. Adjusted thecontact on the dial. Contact tips look pretty worn out on that one. Anyone have a spare contact? Now its onto the ringer. Still didn't workafter I wored up like you said. Found a pinched wire, that may be broken. Need my ohm meter to see if the wire is open or not.
Is the cam that the pulsing contacts ride on always to supposed tostop in the same place? Sometimes it stops with the contacts on the flatpart, other times it stops in a divit. I was looking a older AE phone I have, and the cam always stops on the same place.
So far, though it dials, but I did have trouble with it not dialing correctly on one ocassion.
After repositioning the cam,and redoing the soldered connections to the dial contacts(broke on wire, figured the rest weren't far behind) readusted the pulse contact, it will not dial out and take incoming calls.
This dial is pretty troublesome, perhaps finding another dial would be the ultimate solution. I've never had a dial give this much woe on my old phones.
Opps. I meant the phone will now make outgoing calls, and take incoming calls. The ringer still won't work. But, it is a mechanical adjustment, I think. If I loosen up the spring, it will ring, so I guess I just need to figure out how to adjust it.
that is also what I want to know, how to make an AE80 rings?
i have two AE80 but doesn't rings out
Quote from: mienaichizu on February 18, 2009, 10:53:38 AM
that is also what I want to know, how to make an AE80 rings?
i have two AE80 but doesn't rings out
Are they straightline (i.e. SL) 20/hz ringers, or frequency ringers?
http://www.telephonecollectors.org/library/aeco/aeco.htm
you know, good pics of an AE 802 straightline ringer and a frequency ringer would help to clarfiy.
O belive my ringer to now be frequency, but my digi cam is no where to be found since I moved.
Pics will have to wait until I return home tonight. BTW, what numbers can you read on the ringer itself? Something like 54~ or 66~
my ringer # is d-56548-A50
Quote from: trainman on February 18, 2009, 03:02:43 PM
my ringer # is d-56548-A50
Hmmmm, 50/hz maybe?? Well, I'll check this when I get home. BTW, 20/hz, also known as a straight line ringer, is standard for single line. Different freq ringers were used for party lines. I find many of the independents had freq ringers, since most were used in rural area party lines. Easy fix though.
what's the easy fix? I tried making a new spring out of lighter weight material, but still no go. I picked up 2 more AE 80's off of ebay. hopefully one has a straight line ringer.
Now, we need to determine if you have a frequency ringer. Here's an example of one below. Notice the 54~. This is a 54 hz ringer. Notice the heavy gong rod, and adjustable gong. A good sign this is a freq ringer also. Generally, a 20 hz ringer will have a thin gong rod, and it's non-adjustable. Judging from your part number, it looks like you have a 50/hz ringer i.e. frequency ringer. You should be able to install a .4 or .5 mfd capacitor in place of the original, which is probably an .8 mfd? This will allow it to ring, though not super loud. But plenty loud by my standard. Or, you can find the proper ringer and cap. Some of the TCI members have these for sale on a regular basis. Generally for around $10/$15 bucks shipped.
Last, I don't have a complete model 80 with a printed board. Mines completely in parts and has been scavenged. All my AE80 are the early potted network types.
(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr233/bdm123456/ae80ringer.jpg)
I almost completely forgot this thread, I recently opened up my AE80 and here's the photo of its ringer, I think it is straight line, How can I make this ring?
Yes, that's a straight line 20/25 hz ringer. Is that a potted network, or circuit board network?
circuit board network
Ok, follow this schematic
http://www.telephonecollectors.org/library/aeco/ae80b.pdf
thanks! will try that