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Started by Doug Rose, October 03, 2011, 06:22:50 PM

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Doug Rose

I picked this up on CL from Dallas. $13.00 delivered. Really cool with a see through window in the back. I'm not really up on the newer phones, but it is quite cool looking. Any info is greatly appreciated. Like new, I didn't even wipe it off...Doug
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Remco, JKL Museum of Telephony Curator

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GG



Ericsson Dialog, 6-DLG.   Nice catch.  (If you ever want to sell that one, drop me a line...)

How to take it apart: in that clear handgrip you will see a screw.  Loosen the screw and then left the housing off toward the front.  NOTE: the printed circuit boards in those are fragile, do not apply excessive torque when unscrewing or screwing down wires to the terminals, they can break off.   

The versions of those imported into the US by Ericsson's distributors had digits on the extended number plate.  The ones used in Sweden had reverse-numbered dials.  The only example I have with the digits forward-numbered in the center of the fingerwheel, was made by Ericsson's plant in Mexico.  (Look on the bottom of the baseplate, for the country of origin stamped in the metal with the LM Ericsson logo.) 

If imported for the US market, the ringer will sound like a C4A.  If Mexican, it'll be an interesting & unique tone, but not high-pitched like AE or SC.  If for the Northern European market, I don't know but Remco almost certainly does.   

The green one I have is a darker green similar to a late 60s Western Electric green.  That color green you have is brighter, I don't recall that color ever showing up in the USA-imported 6-DLGs. 

These were typically used in the US on Ericsson PAXs and PBXs.  In Mexico they were used by the telco as standard desk sets.  There was also a time in the US when they were being made by North Electric under license, and were being used by some indie telcos as standard desk sets: these will have alphanumeric numbering on the extended number plate, and no "operator" above the 0.   There were also 10-button touchtone sets made by North Electric, with keypads that look like early Bell Telephone experimental models with large buttons.


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BTW one of the pictures in the link I just added shows the screw that releases the cover.
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Remco, JKL Museum of Telephony Curator

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GG



Hi Remco-   Yep, that's the normal "green Dialog" color.  Good that you posted a picture of where the mounting screw for the housing is. 

First time I picked up a batch of 6-DLGs, I puzzled over that issue for a good fifteen minutes anyway, and then figured "this is an odd place for a main housing screw, but what the heck, may as well try it...."

BTW, have you seen the earlier style of Dialog, with the same innards but a slightly different main housing & handset shape?  The shape is a bit more "rectangular", for example in the front of the handset cradle.  I've got one of those around here somewhere, wonder how rare they are?

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Hello G,

I don't know the earlier style Dialog, any chance of a picture?

BTW the pictures of the other green Dialog are not mine.
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GG


Hi Remco-  I'd either have to fetch that one out of storage and photograph it (I have a gray one) or find a picture in one of my Ericsson brochures, the latter may also depend on me replacing my current printer/scanner.   The other difference between that and the 6-DLG we all know, is that the hookswitch plungers are round clear plastic.  I'm going to guess that my gray one was made in 1964 but that may be off slightly.  (While I'm at it, I might also fetch my black Ericssons with 10-buton DTMF dials.)

GG



Thanks Doug!, the green Ericsson is now sitting right here. 

Yes, this is Mexican Ericsson, like the blue one I have.  Yes it has the same unique ring tone as compared to the usual Ericsson Dialogs made in Sweden and imported into the US.  A few other differences:

The actual color is a couple of shades darker indoors than the photos outdoors, and has a bit of a blue tint almost like a mix with GPO 706 blue.  Nice color that I haven't seen elsewhere, including in any Ericsson color charts or on Ericofon.com.

The network board inside is numbered with a serif font, whereas the Swedish version was always sans-serif.   And the type number on the base is 8-DLG rather than 6-DLG, indicating a later variation.  Audio is just about identical to a WE 500, sidetone is about a decibel higher.  And surprisingly there isn't the least hint of static in the transmitter, something that's a risk for Ericsson transmitters (scratchy ones can be replaced with WE T1 units for practical use).  The dial dust cover is opaque (clear is more common) and the line cord was altered long ago to be 2-wire rather than 3.  Aside from those items, everything else is exactly the same as on the usual Swedish version, and in practically NOS condition.

One more thing about Ericsson Dialogs: when unscrewing the housing screw (in the back of the handgrip), press down gently on the clear plastic part.  The clear plastic part is mounted on a springy clip, so it needs to be pressed down slightly in order for the screw to free up from the interior bracket to get the housing off.  This was muscle-memory from having worked on so many 6-DLGs back in the day when they were common PBX phones, but I'd forgotten to mention it earlier.  Also press down on that clear part when putting the screw back in, so as not to put undue wear on the threads. 

BTW there is presently an ivory one on Ebay from some place in Eastern Europe, with yet another different type of dial (probably a local dial type favored by the local telecoms administration, rather than one of Ericsson's variations such as by AB Elektrisk Bureau). 

Doug Rose

GG....glad you are happy with it, it is a beauty....Doug
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