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Mix & Genest Model 36

Started by wds, November 10, 2013, 03:16:45 PM

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wds

I picked up this Mix & Genest for $18 including shipping.  After it arrived, I noticed it came from my own city, just around the corner from me, so if I had been a little more alert I could have saved $10 shipping.  It has a little damage on the back corner, so I figured it was worth more than that in parts.  Polished up nicely, works great, so now it's on display.  I notice that this phone is identical to a Standard Electric phone, and a Siemens phone I have.  They must have all been sharing the shells and stamping their respective names on them.  
Dave

dsk

It looks like a modell 36, nearly a pilot series before the w38 was approved for use in Germany. Still the w36 was made for years, but not for direct connection to the PSTN, only to pabx's etc.

It is very difficult for me as a non expert to spot the difference between the different variations but this page may help.

http://www.fernsprecher.info/w48/modell36_w38_w48_w49_grundplatte_.html

dsk

wds

I found a couple nice web sites about the Mix & Genest.  I think you're right about this being an early model 36.  Now I feel even better about this purchase! 

http://www.fernsprecher.org/W48-36.htm
Dave

unbeldi

The easiest indication to spot a Siemens type 36, is that the cord mouse hole in the rear is not in the dead center of the base rear, but more to the side of the handset cord egress, to the right when viewed from the rear of the set.
Advertising W38s or even later models as models 36 seems a favorite sport on eBay, because most people simply can't tell the difference.

dsk

#4
Some thing to point out here:
dsk

Added later:
My modell 36: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/dsk/library/Siemens%20modell%2036?sort=4&page=1
or  http://tinyurl.com/ndfkpco

and even another link: http://tinyurl.com/l96obwt

dsk

wds

It seems that everything points to the model 36, except for the handset.  Is there any way to date this phone?
Dave

unbeldi

Quote from: wds on November 11, 2013, 09:00:33 PM
It seems that everything points to the model 36, except for the handset.  Is there any way to date this phone?

November 1946?

Jack Ryan

It looks like a Model 36 with a Model 48 handset to me. The Model 36, even though it was not accepted by the Reichspost as a standard telephone, was made for over a decade. There were subtle changes over time (it became closer to the Model 38) but the component dates and dial type are the best indicator of the date of manufacture. If it has been refurbished its age is anyone's guess.

Jack

unbeldi

Quote from: wds on November 10, 2013, 03:16:45 PM
I picked up this Mix & Genest for $18 including shipping.  After it arrived, I noticed it came from my own city, just around the corner from me, so if I had been a little more alert I could have saved $10 shipping.  It has a little damage on the back corner, so I figured it was worth more than that in parts.  Polished up nicely, works great, so now it's on display.  I notice that this phone is identical to a Standard Electric phone, and a Siemens phone I have.  They must have all been sharing the shells and stamping their respective names on them.  
Each manufacturer's housing should have a specific tiny identification stamp on it (inside) with the logo of the material testing institute's, which indicates the maker and the material.

unbeldi

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Quote from: unbeldi on November 11, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: wds on November 11, 2013, 09:00:33 PM
It seems that everything points to the model 36, except for the handset.  Is there any way to date this phone?

November 1946?

Your phone has a Siemens & Halske dial, see logo on back. It is stamped 31B9.  You can find the same code on several parts of your phone. On the base: 31B11, and on the switch: 31B10.
This indicates the place of manufacturing, the year, and the month.  Going by the Siemens coding, B=1946.