Okay, I know that not too many of you would trade your nicest phones for a smart looking collection of Automatic Electric 80E Telephones. That said, there are a few interesting 80E's out there.
Most of these pictures have been harvested off of ebaY so the resolution isn't very high. One day I will get around to taking more pictures of the phones in my collection.
First off, here is an example of a standard Rotary Dial 80E in Sand Beige:
Since for the life of me I can't figure out how you guys put text between each picture when you post a bunch at once, I'll have to do individual posts.
So why was it called a Fashion Plate? Here's why:
Terry:
Wow! ::) ::) ::) I like the variety of colors AE provided beyond your basic black set.
The picture imediately above looks to be Touch Call (AE's moniker for Touch Tone) but it is actually a "UDK". That is a Universal Dial Keypad. Looks like Touch Call but puts out Dial Pulses. Note the blank keys where the * & # buttons should be.
Since all but the earliest 80E's had a paper mat under a clear hard plastic faceplate, one could put dialing instructions under there for PABX or Hotel use. Here is an example of an otherwise conventional 80E TC with custom PABX instructions under the faceplate.
Here's a nice looking "Gardenia White" 80E TC which as we all know, isn't easy to find. The original 80E's had a one piece hard plastic faceplate with ridges molded into he back. They painted them twice on the back making the ridges stand out. This set appears to have that type of faceplate. The later paper facemats emulated that look, but not as nice as the originals!
Nice! A true touch tone or does it emit pulses?
Quote from: JorgeAmely on July 13, 2010, 12:40:37 AM
Nice! A true touch tone or does it emit pulses?
The "Touch Calls" sets are DTMF where as the "UDK's" are touchpads that ONLY put out dial pulses.
Terry
What does the UDK model do when you press # or *?
Okay, I don't know what the story is but several different companies used 80E's to produce dialers and even a clock/calculator. "WHAT?" you say ....no regular everyday WECo set can do that!
Here is one that I have an example of in my collection. It is an "Access-1" It can be programmed with 10 frequently called numbers.
Quote from: JorgeAmely on July 13, 2010, 12:44:14 AM
What does the UDK model do when you press # or *?
The UDK doesn't "actually" have a star or pound! It looks as though the button can be pushed though. I don't actually have one in my collection.
Here is its picture again:
Here's another customized 80E, the "Royce Freedom Dialer".
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 12:45:23 AM
Okay, I don't know what the story is but several different companies used 80E's to produce dialers and even a clock/calculator. "WHAT?" you say ....no regular everyday WECo set can do that!
Clock and Calculator!!??? And to think that in the last phone show someone said that AE meant "almost electric". That will show him. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Then there is the "Figure Phone". It doesn't appear to be a dialer but quite obviously it can add...and tell the time. Note the AM & PM indicator led's on each side of the display.
AE was truly slightly ahead of its time. ;)
Do you have this one in your collection?
They made 80E's in lots of colors although maybe not as many as back in the old days (the 60's).
Here are a couple of other color variations.
This picture of the "Ebony Black" 80E TC has the old type of ribbed back one piece faceplate.
Quote from: JorgeAmely on July 13, 2010, 12:54:11 AM
AE was truly slightly ahead of its time. ;)
Do you have this one in your collection?
The only "odd" one I have is the Access-1. I wouldn't mind picking up a Freedom Phone and Royce Freedom Dialer one day. Will have to keep watching ebaY.
By the way, most of these pictures are harvested off of ebaY which is why they aren't very high resolution AND the "Staging" is generally rather poor.
Terry
There were other variations as well Just like the AE 80 and the two line version called an 85, they also made a two line 80E called the 85E.
I don't have a picture of an 85E. Here is a Jade Green 85.
Second picture I believe is an 81E with the optional buttons on top for several different features. Some were for exclusion, others for buzzer circuits or even for use as power fail phones with a ground start button.
That's about it for the 80E lesson folks!
Terry
My college years in southern Illinois, mid '70s were my first time to live outside the Bell System, so I'd never much been around anything other than WE phones. Living off campus, we were issued an 80E when we got phone service and it had the decorator faceplates. IIRC we could choose a couple of faceplates, but didn't get the whole set with the rented phone. I swapped out the plates a time or two for the fun of it. Those were pretty cool.
Does anyone know where to obtain replacement faceplates? I have two AE80Es whose faceplates have been 'decorated' with ugly stains, and I would like to replace them if the cost is reasonable. The phones cost me about $1 each, so I am not looking to spend much on them.
Larry
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on July 13, 2010, 11:54:28 AM
Does anyone know where to obtain replacement faceplates? I have two AE80Es whose faceplates have been 'decorated' with ugly stains, and I would like to replace them if the cost is reasonable. The phones cost me about $1 each, so I am not looking to spend much on them.
Larry
I've got a pile of them. Rotary or Touch Call? WHat colors are the phones?
Phoneguy06 is waiting for me to send him some too.
Terry
Both phones are dial. One is dark brown and the other is (or at least used to be) white.
Thank You
Larry
Quote from: LarryInMichigan on July 13, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
Both phones are dial. One is dark brown and the other is (or at least used to be) white.
Thank You
Larry
I'll check what I have and get back to you. I'll get your address from you and mail them next time I am in the USA....probably a week or two from now.
Terry
Terry,
Thank you very much :) There is no hurry.
Larry
Terry,
Those are some nice 80 E's!!!!!!!!! Looks like I'll have a few more to add to my collection.
I have a 85 two-line ,in black .
While your looking for 80 E faceplates don't forget the dial version of vinyl inserts for AE 95 panel phone , just in case you run across them . stub
There are some face plates listed on eBay. Only a couple days left........
http://tinyurl.com/29gsb79
Image is from the listing. This is not my listing. A member of the ATCA (obviously when you see the seller's eBay handle) mentioned it on the list serve.
does anybody of you guys did make a reproduction of AE80E faceplates?
Quote from: mienaichizu on August 01, 2010, 11:07:20 AM
does anybody of you guys did make a reproduction of AE80E faceplates?
I have seen lots of "custom" facemats for 80E's. Besides the ones with dialing instructions for Hotel PABX's I have seen people make their own paper mats from pictures, telephone book cover pictures etc. Later kits of facemats included thin clear plastic rotary dial mats with just the numbers and letters on them making it even easier to make your own custom mat including numbers.
Do you need a facemat for an 80E or is it the hard plastic faceplate that you need?
Terry
Please let us know what you need. Several of us may have originals to offer.
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 01:03:21 AM
There were other variations as well Just like the AE 80 and the two line version called an 85, they also made a two line 80E called the 85E.
I don't have a picture of an 85E. Here is a Jade Green 85. <snip>
Terry: Is this the 85E? (The label on the bottom has been ripped and is missing the model number.)
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 12:33:52 AM
Since for the life of me I can't figure out how you guys put text between each picture when you post a bunch at once,
The trick to that is don't use the forum's picture posting method if you want to put text between the pictures, use the "img" command and link to each picture that is hosted someplace on the internet, such as Photobucket. That way you can post text after each image command. If you have a Photobucket or some other similar photo hosting account (most are free), the command for each picture is usually posted below it in a way for you to just copy/paste.
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/Brinybay/Telephones/Stash/Bronze%20202/DSC01434.jpg)
On these pictures, I have my Photobucket account on another tab and copy/pasted the "img" command to link to the picture on my Photobucket account. Now I can put text between the pictures. I even went in and modified the size by changing the img width and height (by half).
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/Brinybay/Telephones/Stash/Bronze%20202/DSC01433.jpg)
Or you can even do thumbnails like I did here:
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3144.msg42013#msg42013
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 01:03:21 AM
There were other variations as well Just like the AE 80 and the two line version called an 85, they also made a two line 80E called the 85E.
Terry
What dial or finger wheel is that on the jade 80? I ask because at least one of my regular ol' AE 80s has the type of dial or finger wheel that is held on with a screw in the middle, and will only take a self-adhesive sticker that looks a little out of place.
You can replace those fingerwheels with ones that are similar to WE. Steve Hilz has kits with the hardware and the new fingerwheel cheap.
Quote from: Brinybay on August 01, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 12:33:52 AM
Since for the life of me I can't figure out how you guys put text between each picture when you post a bunch at once,
The trick to that is don't use the forum's picture posting method if you want to put text between the pictures, use the "img" command and link to each picture that is hosted someplace on the internet, such as Photobucket. That way you can post text after each image command. If you have a Photobucket or some other similar photo hosting account (most are free), the command for each picture is usually posted below it in a way for you to just copy/paste.
Thanks for the lesson Brinybay. I have to admit, that sounds like too much work for me! I do have a Photobucket account but most of the pictures I used here are on my computer, not photobucket. I would have to be a lot more organized to do that!
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/AE_Collector/
Terry
Quote from: paul-f on August 01, 2010, 02:33:11 PM
Terry: Is this the 85E? (The label on the bottom has been ripped and is missing the model number.)
A definite "I think So" Paul. I don't actually have a picture or the real thing but all indications would be that is an 85E.
Stub: You said that you have an 85E...is the picture Paul posted the same as your black one?
Terry
Quote from: Brinybay on August 01, 2010, 03:44:54 PM
What dial or finger wheel is that on the jade 80? I ask because at least one of my regular ol' AE 80s has the type of dial or finger wheel that is held on with a screw in the middle, and will only take a self-adhesive sticker that looks a little out of place.
There have been 3 clear plastic versions of AE fingerwheels SINCE the metal FW that was used on 40/50's as well as the early black 80/90's.
(1) The first clear plastic FW is as pictured on the Jade Green AE 85 that I posted near the top of Page 2 of this thread. It is a plastic FW with a chromed ring around the numbercard, similar to the ring used around the number card on earlier black metal FW's used on 40/50's. These clear plastic FW's were used on the early colored 80/90's.
Incidentally, with the VERY earliest colored 80/90 sets, AE hadn't yet designed the clear plastic FW so they used chromed metal FW's on these sets. Then they designed the chromed ring type clear plastic FW to use on colored plastic phones.
(2) The second type appeared by the mid 1960's when AE changed the FW to the hollow type that the number card fit inside of and had the pin hole to release the FW from the dial. So far I don't see a picture in this thread of a second type plastic FW, all others pictured so far (except the jade green 85 on page 2) are the third type of screw on FW.
(3) The third and final clear plastic FW type is the one with the screw through the middle that used a stick on dial tag. I believe this type appeared around the time of the 80E (1975) but it could have been a bit earlier than that. All other Rotary 80/81/85's pictured in this discussion SO FAR have the third type screw on FW.
Terry
Terry,
My 85 is a two line like your pic of the green one . I would like to have one like Paul showed !!!!!!!!!!!! stub
Quote from: stub1953 on August 02, 2010, 12:20:33 AM
Terry,
My 85 is a two line like your pic of the green one . I would like to have one like Paul showed !!!!!!!!!!!! stub
Oh sorry Ken, I just looked at your post back on page 2 and see that you DID say that you have an 85, not an 85E. For some reason I read it as 85E initially.
We didn't ever use 85E's here in BC and even 85's were few and far between. If a single line set wasn't enough, we went straight to the 87 or 187 - 3 line sets. I recall occasionally putting a DPDT switch (we called them "A" Keys) onto single line sets to give access to two different lines.
Terry
This picture of my two tone AE's both have the fingerwheel with the release hole and the dial card underneath. I replaced the wheels that had the screw in the center to install these.
Thanks for posting the pics of the 2nd generation AECo plastic finger wheeels Harry.
Terry
Quote from: ae_collector on August 01, 2010, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Brinybay on August 01, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: ae_collector on July 13, 2010, 12:33:52 AM
Since for the life of me I can't figure out how you guys put text between each picture when you post a bunch at once,
The trick to that is don't use the forum's picture posting method if you want to put text between the pictures, use the "img" command and link to each picture that is hosted someplace on the internet, such as Photobucket. That way you can post text after each image command. If you have a Photobucket or some other similar photo hosting account (most are free), the command for each picture is usually posted below it in a way for you to just copy/paste.
Thanks for the lesson Brinybay. I have to admit, that sounds like too much work for me! I do have a Photobucket account but most of the pictures I used here are on my computer, not photobucket. I would have to be a lot more organized to do that!
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/AE_Collector/
Terry
I make it sound more complicated than it is, but not deliberately. I use my camera as a photo inventory for everything, not just phones. That way I get adept at using the camera, plus it's just fun. Then I use Photobucket as an online backup for the photos.
BTW, this is great info on jazzing up an otherwise boxy and boring looking phone, the AE 80E.
This topic has been most useful for me. Thank you, all of you!
My 80E was quite shabby when I got it, and I have to admit I was a little disappointed. The quality is not superb, and it is maybe one first telphones were the intention not was to repair everything in the field. When I have used enough time, learend how the dial works,and figured out how to take it apart, what should have oil, and what should not, the dial is working properly again. (But I was not far from giving up) The quality is probably just good enough. Earlier phones was build to last for ever. It is fun too, when you can repair whats not intended to be serviced, just changed. The changeable front disk is genial, OK I got one in bad shape, but I could make a new one, and I can do it in the color I want.
The finger stop was missing, but it was possible to use something laying around. I like the result:
dsk
Here's another 80 E platform telephone. Superphone 7700 , Md# 7710 by Integrated Circuits Packaging Inc. 1978. Anyone know where I might find a diagram for this phone? stub
Quote from: HarrySmith on August 02, 2010, 07:06:05 AM
This picture of my two tone AE's both have the fingerwheel with the release hole and the dial card underneath. I replaced the wheels that had the screw in the center to install these.
Did those start out that way, or did you swap the parts yourself?
Do the second type plastic finger wheels use the same cards as the older metal ones, or do they need a different type? I might get one, and the mounting spider for it, for my AE80; I don't really like the type with the stuck-on label.
Going back a ways....
In case anyone's confused, all those "calculator phones" and suchlike were produced by independent companies, not by AE. They would buy AE 80E sets without dials, and add their own circuit boards and keypads and special faceplates.
One solution to the facemat problem, on the keypad phones, is to get some Contact shelf paper (it's actually thin plastic), and cut it approximately to size, and then stick it on the backside of the translucent faceplate and *very* carefully trim all the edges including the keypad holes. This doesn't work on the rotary ones of course, due to the numbering. However, you can do what d_s_k did and make one from scratch using transfer numbering or try doing it on a computer and printing it out, etc.
In the 80-series, AE made 85-A, -B, -C, and -D.
In the 80-E series the only one I know of is 85-E but there were probably others.
The 1973 edition of AE catalog section M (subscriber station apparatus) does not show any 80-E at all; type 80 was still the standard desk set.
The 1975 edition of AE catalog section M (station equipment) shows that type 80 has been replaced by 80-E. However, 85-E has not yet appeared; the types 85-A through -D were still current at that time.
The differences between 85-A through -D were:
85-A had only a press/turn key. Useful for any of the following: Basic 2-line service (without Hold). One-line service without Hold but with intercom on the 2nd line (the press function of the key could operate the DC buzzers). Ringer cutoff. Extension exclusion (cut off downstream extensions).
Usage, 85-A for one line with intercom:
Incoming call rings on Line 1, you answer Line 1. Caller wishes to speak with extension user. You press the press/turn key for example one long buzz, to signal extension user to pick up Line 1. Extension user comes on the line, all parties can hear each other, you announce the call. If extension user accepts call, you hang up. If extension user declines call, they hang up, you take a message.
If there is not a phone call, you can call each other on Intercom: Turn the press/turn key to Line 2, lift receiver, press the press/turn key for example two short buzzes, to signal extension user to pick up Line 2 (Intercom circuit).
85-B had only the exclusion switch (two buttons) in the cradle: red and chrome. Pressing the chrome one would disconnect all "downstream" extensions on the line, pressing the red one (or hanging up) would reconnect them. AE documentation says it could be used for a 2-line switch, which would imply that the switch contacts were different to those on 85-C and -D. The switch contacts would have to add up to a DPDT switch for 2-line service.
85-C had both the press/turn key and the exclusion switch. At casual glance it appears like 85-E but isn't. Two-line service without Hold, but with optional field modification to add a Hold bridge on Line 1 only. Useful for one line with hold, and intercom on Line 2 with press button to signal DC buzzers. The exclusion switch on these phones consisted of one set of SPDT contacts and one set of SPST contacts that would open when the switch was operated: thus not sufficient to operate a Hold bridge across both lines.
85-D, had both the press/turn key and the exclusion switch. Basically an 85-C but factory-wired with the Hold bridge on line 1.
Usage, 85-D or field-converted 85-C:
You receive a call on Line 1, caller wants to speak with extension user. Press exclusion key to place Line 1 on hold. Turn press/turn key to access Line 2 which is Intercom. Press the press/turn key to buzz extension user to pick up Intercom. You and extension user talk privately on Intercom, so s/he can choose to decline the outside call without the outside caller overhearing.
For intercom without a phone call, just turn the press/turn key to Line 2, lift receiver, and press the key to buzz the other phone.
Thus the basic difference between 85-A, and 85-C or -D with Hold was:
On 85-A, when you have an outside call on Line 1, you can't have a private intercom conversation because you can't hold Line 1. On 85-C and -D with Hold, you can put line 1 on hold and have a private intercom conversation.
Now onward to 85-E:
85-E was an 80-E that looked like an updated 85-D but wasn't. The major change was that it had a Hold bridge for both Line 1 and Line 2.
On 85-E: The turn key was wired for 2-line service. The two buttons in the cradle, that were used for exclusion function on the 80-series phones, are now used for Hold on *both* lines. The press function of the turn key could be used to operate intercom buzzers if you wanted to use Line 2 for Intercom, however this required some minor wiring changes to place it across the third pair on the modular cord, and the intercom buzzers had to be mounted on the wall because the standard modular cord could not accommodate them inside the phone.
Pressing the gray button in the cradle (located where the red button was on the 80-series models) would switch a Hold bridge (basically a coil and a resistor) across each of lines 1 and 2 at the same time. Thus if you used this as a 2-line phone, you could press the gray button and then just use the turn-key to go back and forth between Line 1 and Line 2. For example you're on the phone, you get a second call, you press the gray button and it puts the Hold bridge across both lines. This has actually "answered" that second call, so you quickly turn the turn-key to say Hello before your caller wonders what happened and hangs up. Yes, this actually works well in practice.
When set up for one outside line plus intercom, usage is the same as for converted 85-C and 85-D. Except, the positions of the exclusion buttons in the cradle (now used for Hold on both lines) have been reversed compared to 85-C and 85-D, so if you have both types in service, you have to be careful of which button to press.
On the rotary version, if I recall correctly (I have one, but I'm not going to test this now), it's wired such that the dial is "before" the Hold bridge, so you can dial an outgoing call even while both lines are on Hold. (If it had been wired differently, with the Hold bridge "before" the dial, you couldn't dial out.)
In any case, 85-E only had a ringer on one line, so if you wanted 2-line service you needed either an AC station buzzer inside the phone or an external bell box on Line 2, or you could wire another nearby 85-E with its ringer on Line 2, so both people could hear both phones ring.
All of these 85-series phones are highly useful in a practical sense, if you know their strengths and limits and use them correctly. For example 85-A makes a good bedroom phone with a ring cutoff switch. 85-E can be used "as-is" for a 2-line set, as long as you don't need to transfer calls on a PBX (though you could always add a "flash" module inside the phone, operated by the press function of the press/turn key).
If you have to transfer calls on a PBX, use either a 2-line Monophone (the 40/43 series phone with the separate Hold button for each line, oddly one of mine has a code starting with 87 on the bottom, even though it's a 40/43 series phone) or use an 87 or 187 type (the 3-line sets that look vaguely like 1A2 phone but aren't). Types 87 and 187 have the means to directly send a flash to a PBX (one of the hookswitch buttons on type 87, or the separate black button above the dial on type 187).
Such was the state of small office telephone systems back in the days when things were "simpler."
(Apologies for the length of these postings, but they're intended as a standard reference on these phones.)
Thanks for the LONG and informative post GG!
I found the 1975 catalog here:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=4548&Itemid=2
Does anyone have a link to an electronic copy of the 1973 catalog? (AE Section M)
Thanks for all the info on the 85 and 85E series phones. There is and has been a lot of confusion about different button arrangements on them. We really never used any of them here in BC. We "cut the crap" and used an AE 87 or 187 instead of the 85/85E's.
The 80E (and probably the 85E) appeared some time in 1975. I have never seen any earlier than that other than 80E looking phones with metal bases which are not 80E's but either the pretty rare 80TC (Touch Call - AE's terminology for TT Touch Tone) OR are updated 80 rotary sets with newer 80E type cases put on them in refurb.
Terry
Thanks y'all. Yes, the 85s A through E can be confusing, but that's because they're so flexible: the basic switching keys can be used for any of a number of functions.
I also used 87s extensively back in the day, because they were a simple solution to most of the relevant applications, and frankly also because SaskTel surplus was available down here in the US at good prices compared to buying whatever flavor of type 85 new.
However a telco with a decent subscriber base would be buying all of this stuff new, so the 85s were cost-effective especially on long time-scales.
How to tell early 80-Es from later ones:
On the later ones you'll notice that each baseplate foot consists of a plastic "dome" with a small rubberized insert. On the early ones, there is no "dome" and the rubberized insert is about the same diameter (large) as the "dome" on the later ones.
A phone with an 80-E housing (rotary w. faceplate or touch calling w/ changeable facemats) but a metal baseplate, is not a "real" 80-E, it's a "5302-ish" 80-E that had a new 80E housing put on an old 80 base.
80-E could have been "perfect" if they'd done a few things differently:
One, put the rotary dial numbers on the numberplate below the fingerwheel, so they don't have to appear on special printed facemats. This would have left room for PABX instructions and would have accommodated colored facemats without leading to the problem of messed-up facemats that we see so often.
Two, made the dial mounting brackets stronger. The dials "wiggle" while dialing or pressing keys. I have a way of fixing this ("Contact" translucent "shelf paper" self-adhesive plastic on both sides of the paper facemat; cut the dial hole just a teeny bit "small" and it holds the dial in place, no wiggling) but AE should have used stronger brackets anyway so the dials don't wiggle in the first place.
Three, stuck with the late 60s - early 70s dial fingerwheel on a metal "spider", rather than the "screw through the plastic" design. For the touch calling version, adopted the same number retainer design as used by WE et. al. Alternately, use the touch calling type number label on the rotary phones also, in the space freed up by having the numbering under the fingerwheel.
Hookswitches mounted directly to network circuit boards became "acceptable" after GPO/BT did that with the 746 and German Post did it with the 611, so I can't particularly complain about that, though a separate hookswitch mounted to the base is stronger.
None the less, it's still a world better than most of the crappy disposable stuff being made today, and it's a very real part of the history in the US. And the audio quality of AE 80 and 80-E phones is crisp and clear in both directions, with a good sidetone level. Looking around my place, I use AE extensively because the audio is good and the functions on the self-contained multi-line sets (40-series, 85s, 87s, and 187s) are useful.
Someone in this topic said they wanted one of the "calculator phones" based on the 80-E platform.
Here's one on Ebay: 270828518195 Location is UK but it's listed for both UK and US so presumably they'll ship to here.
Buy-It-Now for 10 Pounds UK, approx. 15 Dollars US.
Unit has USA modular plug. Power supply transformer leads are cut off so it may be difficult to tell what voltage and polarity of power supply are needed. However hang on to it as a display model and sooner or later the needed info will turn up.
It's possible that one of the stickers on the bottom, or some writing on the printed circuit board inside, will have something to say about the correct power supply to use.
That is yet another variation that I hadn't seen before. There sure were a lot of them. I have 2 or 3 variations now.
Terry
Back in the 70s there was a book titled _The Future of Telecommunications_ that predicted, among other things, that we would all have a little card-file full of overlays for our touchtone dials, whereby we would dial up certain services and put the right overlay on, and access various computerized voice-response services. For example calling up our banks or credit unions, and getting balance information, and issuing payments, and so on.
One of these was a calculator overlay. Either, one of the buttons served as a "shift" button, or this idea was counting on universal adoption of 16-button dials.
The idea was that in the 21st century, everyone's touchtone phone would be a form of computer terminal. And you could also write a letter on a teletype, have it printed at the post office nearest its destination, and have it delivered to the recipient the same or next day.
That book also predicted computer hacking for theft, in the form of skimming a fractional cent off each transaction going through a bank's mainframe computers, and thereby accumulating a bank robber's fortune made up of millions or billions of fractional cents.
It is funny looking back on things like that. They usually got quite a bit of it correct but missed on other aspects. Sort of like the ulta high tech things on Star Treks Enterprise including the CRT monitors....
Terry
Here is a Superphone 7800 That I found at a closing electronic shop this week. I have the users manual and will post it soon.
Another great example of phones built on the AE 80E chassis. This one looks like it might be a 2 line with the two red buttons up at the cradle.
Thanks for posting it CCH123. Good searching on the forum to find this thread too....I didn't give you much to go on!
Terry
Posted by cch123 in the August 2013 "Find of the Month" topic and copied to here:
Quote from: AE_Collector on August 15, 2013, 12:02:56 AM
Quote from: cch123 on August 14, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
The Superphone 7800
Aah, another of the 80E platform phones. Search 80E on here and you should find a multipage discussion about them! Welcome to CRPF !
Give us a bit more info such as where you found it and how much etc.
Terry
Thanks for the info on the 80E! There is a local electronic shop here in Huntsville, AL that is going out of business. I saw a glimpse of this phone on a local news cast about Mock Electronics going out of business sale and decided I better be there early because I knew hundreds of people would be waiting in line for it :) Anyways I get there the next morning and they were close (not open on Saturday). I went back on monday and picked it up for $10. There are 2 more still there. I may go back and pick them up just to save them from the thrift store or where ever they end up after the place closes. They are all NOS and I have the manual. I'll scan the manual and post it.
Aahhh....Huntsville Alabama. You know what the significance of Huntsville and this phone are....AE had a plant in Huntsville that manufactured the 80E and other newer AECo phones.
Is there anything indicating who actually made this phone? I don't know of AE actually making any of these "Super Duper 80E's" themselves but I guess it is possible.
While these phones aren't generally worth much, for $10 new in the box I would go back and get them....but then, I am AE_Collector!
Terry
Here are some more picts..