will it make 6k ?

[DavePEI]

A Further note from Stan:

"Correction. This time I took both payphones down from the shelves and
out of their L brackets. You CAN tell a 50A back casting by looking at it
from the back.

    The payphone on the left is a 50G, The payphone on the right is a 50A.
   
The 50G has strenghing bosses around two of the mounting holes."

Stan Schreier via Dave

[poplar1]

Dave, thanks for forwarding the info from Stan.

The 155SP that sold for $5908 then again for $2500 does have the bosses on the back. Since the seller didn't provide photos of the inside to show the presence or lack of landing pads, I wonder why the consensus was that it has a 50A back.

Also, neither Stan's 50A or 50G has the 3 extra (smaller) screws shown on the back of Ray's 50G. These are also on the back of all later AE and WE pay phones to make a total of 7. So were these added later to Ray's phone, or did the later cast iron 50G backs have additional holes?

[DavePEI]

I passed this along to Stan - hopefully he will have an answer for you! It definitely is education for us all. If only we had the collective knowledge Stan has!

Dave

Dave, thanks for forwarding the info from Stan.

The 155SP that sold for $5908 then again for $2500 does have the bosses on the back. Since the seller didn't provide photos of the inside to show the presence or lack of landing pads, I wonder why the consensus was that it has a 50A back.

Also, neither Stan's 50A or 50G has the 3 extra (smaller) screws shown on the back of Ray's 50G. These are also on the back of all later AE and WE pay phones to make a total of 7. So were these added later to Ray's phone, or did the later cast iron 50G backs have additional holes?

[DavePEI]

I passed this along to Stan - hopefully he will have an answer for you! It definitely is education for us all. If only we had the collective knowledge Stan has!

Ok, here is Stan's reply:

"Here we go'

    >The 155SP that sold for $5908 then again for $2500 does
have the bosses on the back. Since the seller didn't
provide photos of the inside to show the presence or lack
of landing pads, I wonder why the consensus was that it has
a 50A back.

     I went back and read the entire thread again.  As far as I can see only
one collector said that the back was a 50A. It obviously isn't.

   >Also, neither Stan's 50A or 50G has the 3 extra (smaller)
screws shown on the back of Ray's 50G. These are also on
the back of all later AE and WE pay phones to make a total
of 7. So were these added later to Ray's phone, or did the
later cast iron 50G backs have additional holes?"

    The number and size of the screws that were used to mount the bottoms to
the backs in the 50 series 3-slots were constantly being made larger.
Originally the 4 mounting screws were 8-32 (50A).  Over the years those
screws became ENORMOUS!  Take a look at the picture attached to this email.
When I built the 50A in the picture I previously sent you I had to tap the 4
mounting holes in the back and the bottom 5/16-24.  Then, screw in threaded
bushings.  That's how large the holes had become when the parts were
refurbished over the years.  One brass bushing is tapped 8-32 internally.
The other is a clear hole for an 8-32 screw.  The bushings got screwed into
the tapped 5/16-32 holes in the bottom and back.  A little 'LocTite' and a
paint job and the 4 mounting screws were once again 8-32.

    The 3 extra smaller screws (2 on the left and 1 on the right) were added
later.  Sometimes you'll take the back off a 50G and find the holes for
those screws tapped in the bottom but no matching holes in the back casting.
Sometimes it's the other way around.  All depend on the vintage of the
various parts.

    After reading the entire thread (once again), a few more comments.

    1-170 series handset 3-slots aren't real, they're mutts.  They were
remanufactured 2-piece payphones.  ANY model 2-piecer that could be made
into a handset payphone was stamped a 170 'something'.  Could have been a
150G or if you were VERY LUCKY a 160A originally.  Years back you could
pick-up 170 series handset 3-slots on Ebay for $600-$700.  I bought as many
as I could get my hands on.  This was a case of the parts being worth MUCH
MORE than the sum of the whole.

    2-The Gray 150GJ is a real model. It's not a reworked anything.  It's in
the Gray catalogue 'Yesterday Today and Tomorrow'.  I checked and I don't
have a diagram for that phone.  The 150GJ-55s that show up on Ebay are a
different animal.  They were built by refurbishers and telcos out of
whatever surplus parts were on hand.  I must have 6 diagrams for that
junk-all different.  IMHO, as a part of payphone history they're worthless.

    3-The picture Ray Katke posted isn't a 50G, it's a 10 cent 55G.  The
original 10 cent stainless steel coin track was replaced with a Dick Pitzer
reproduction 5 cent lead track.  It's obviosly a 10 cent payphone by the
'gate operating arm' screwed to the switch hook and the 'X' sawtooth contact
that's above the flat equalizing spring just above the entry to the coin
hopper.

Think that's enough!
Stan"