Hi Everybody,
Mr. Vern Potter and I are looking for more info on this phone- AE Bracket Monophone. All the AE Catalogs , that I have looked at , show the same information. Does anyone have one they could post pictures of? As always, any help would be greatly appreciated!! stub CRPF TCI
Wow, I have never seen one of those. Has Vern seen one?
Bill,
Vern told me he has not seen a REAL one. stub
As opposed to a FAKE one?
Quote from: Phonesrfun on March 26, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
As opposed to a FAKE one?
Correct. Vern is in the process of making one....a "fake" one.
Any news on a phone show in Seattle yet Bill?
Terry
I have some feelers out on getting a cheaper venue. Hopefully I will hear back this week.
It is NICE that Bill is working on his show, yes I would like to go, but to far at this time of year.
But what I want to know IS, Who knows what about the Bracket phone, that this started with ????? Or does any one have or seen a real one ??
Vern P
Well nobody else has one, so I'll make my own like Vern did ;D. Here is what I have. I need to get a few other parts and this will be done. Yes it is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy. More pics when finished.... stub
There is an AE bracket on eBay, I spotted it last night but did not save it. No phone but a complete bracket assembly.
HarrySmith ,
Yeah, I saw it. Vern is sending some more parts to the bracket assembly. Thanks, stub
Here's the latest work on this phone. What would look better black or brown cloth cords? I think for now I will use the R C network ( cheater subset) . I still need to get the wall mounting bracket, ringer & induction coil subset in the AE metal wall box and 2 shorter 10/24 bracket bolts. Later, stub
Black would look nice, but brown looks good too. Does the catalog say how one of these was originally configured?
Stub....really an outstanding job. Looks like the real deal to me.....Doug
Doug - Thanks
Bill ,
It comes in LB and CB. This is all the info I can find on this phone in the Am E and AE catalogs. stub
Did you get this phone completely finished Ken?
With code number 1902 do you think it is a "Type 19"? That coding/model number relationship held true for other AE phones in this time frame I believe.
I have never seen or heard of one of these AE phones before. Someone must have one in their collection!
Terry
Quote from: AE_Collector on May 26, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
Did you get this phone completely finished Ken?
With code number 1902 do you think it is a "Type 19"? That coding/model number relationship held true for other AE phones in this time frame I believe.
I have never seen or heard of one of these AE phones before. Someone must have one in their collection!
Terry
That would make sense, indeed. They were number 1902 and later 1903. There perhaps was a 1900 and 1901 in the beginning too, and they never seem to have acquired an L-code.
Type 19 is not used by any other instrument, as far as I know. The Type 18, I think, was a wall instrument with the L-900 receiver on top. That would leave only the #20 open until we get to #21 which is well known, of course. Is it known why the No. 21 was numbered that way early on ?
Quote from: unbeldi on May 26, 2017, 10:41:39 AM
That would make sense, indeed. They were number 1902 and later 1903. There perhaps was a 1900 and 1901 in the beginning too, and they never seem to have acquired an L-code.
Type 19 is not used by any other instrument, as far as I know. The Type 18, I think, was a wall instrument with the L-900 receiver on top. That would leave only the #20 open until we get to #21 which is well known, of course. Is it known why the No. 21 was numbered that way early on ?
I had the impression that many AE models were named based on the year they were developed or introduced, hence the skipping from 21 to 34, 35, 40, 47. When this method was adopted over sequential numbering is a question. The "Strowger Progess" chronology might provide some insight into this. I thought though that the 21 dated from 1921.
Quote from: Alex G. Bell on May 26, 2017, 04:15:23 PM
I had the impression that many AE models were named based on the year they were developed or introduced, hence the skipping from 21 to 34, 35, 40, 47. When this method was adopted over sequential numbering is a question. The "Strowger Progess" chronology might provide some insight into this. I thought though that the 21 dated from 1921.
Yes, that is the explanation I had also, and it has made a lot of sense for the major product lines. Not that the 1/1A were not major in any way. .... Notwithstanding that the 21 was announced in 1922.
Quote from: unbeldi on May 26, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Yes, that is the explanation I had also, and it has made a lot of sense for the major product lines. Not that the 1/1A were not major in any way. .... Notwithstanding that the 21 was announced in 1922.
Sure, but they were the first Monophones so it makes sense that the code sequence began over. "21s" and other 2-piece phones were not AFAIK "Monophones".
It's not clear, at least to me (I've never tried to correlate) Monophone model #s with year of intro/announcement to suss out whether they were the year the devel project began or the year of intro/ann. so I don't know whether 21s in 22 contradicts what was done with other models. But given that about the only consistent thing about what AE did was their inconsistency, even that might not be exceptional.
Quote from: Alex G. Bell on May 26, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
Sure, but they were the first Monophones so it makes sense that the code sequence began over. "21s" and other 2-piece phones were not AFAIK "Monophones".
It's not clear, at least to me (I've never tried to correlate) Monophone model #s with year of intro/announcement to suss out whether they were the year the devel project began or the year of intro/ann. so I don't know whether 21s in 22 contradicts what was done with other models. But given that about the only consistent thing about what AE did was their inconsistency, even that might not be exceptional.
It has seemed to me that they just started with No. 1 Monophone and incremented, until corporate amnesia ended and they had the idea to name the 34.
Quote from: unbeldi on May 26, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
It has seemed to me that they just started with No. 1 Monophone and incremented, until corporate amnesia ended and they had the idea to name the 34.
That makes sense for the Monophones but presumably the 21-type desk stand and 21 /21A wall ("hotel") phones predate the #1 Monophone, so they seem to have used the "year method" before the amnesia set in and they recovered from it/had an "Oh Yeah!" (light bulb came back on) moment.
Terry,
Yes I finished the frankenphone when I got the correct Burns bracket from Vern back in 2012. I haven't seen a real AE made one at all. It is now in a box somewhere in the shop. stub
Been a LONG TIME, congrats on you phone ! The last I knew you were having trouble finding something to make the shaft out of, what did you use ? Made mine along time ago, been thinking of making another one.