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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: countryman on July 28, 2021, 03:19:37 PM

Title: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on July 28, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Sure looks like 2 classic American phones. Bidding on eBay was kinda slow and I won them both on my tight budget  8)
Please educate me, what can I expect in the mail the next couple of days?
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: 19and41 on July 28, 2021, 03:30:01 PM
The upper one is an Automatic Electric model 50 wall phone.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: HarrySmith on July 28, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Western Electric D1 desk phone, needs a subset. Could be wired as a 101 or 102.
Automatic Electric model 50 Wall phone.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: phonium on July 28, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on July 28, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Could be wired as a 101 or 102.
102 or 202
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on July 28, 2021, 03:41:21 PM
Thanks guys, that's what I expected. I'm excited to inspect them when they arrive. You don't find both phones very often here in Germany. So keep your fingers crossed there won't be too many missing parts besides the notorious dial centers...
I guess I can improvise a subset from parts I have.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: HarrySmith on July 28, 2021, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: phonium on July 28, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
102 or 202

OOPS! Thanks for catching that.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: FABphones on July 28, 2021, 06:47:21 PM
Good finds and two nice additions to your collection. Do you have an auction link?

Looking forward to seeing more photos when they arrive.

:)
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on July 29, 2021, 02:27:01 AM
https://www.ebay.de/itm/203531862152 (https://www.ebay.de/itm/203531862152)
https://www.ebay.de/itm/203531844324 (https://www.ebay.de/itm/203531844324)

The seller has some more "stuff", including a mottled brown thing what I assume is a French military intermediate phone? https://www.ebay.de/itm/203536863126 (https://www.ebay.de/itm/203536863126) Not sure if I'm interested in it.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: RB on July 29, 2021, 06:06:58 AM
If that brown one was in better shape, maybe...
But with a missing transmitter and cap, a broken finger wheel,
AND most of the switch tops broken off, good luck doing much with it. :(
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: FABphones on July 29, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
Back in 2018 I restored one of those 'walnut burr' colour telephones. Came up nicely, but everything was present and intact. In my experience those finger wheels are often broken or the dial replaced with the later clear fingerwheel versions (as seen on the S63). I have never seen spares in the same colour.

I would pass that one by unless needed for spares itself.

Thread for the phone I restored:
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=21372

Images below, first screenshot of the phone as discussed (from above auction), second set of images show the phone I restored - 'before' to left, 'after' to right.

Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: dsk on July 29, 2021, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: countryman on July 28, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Sure looks like 2 classic American phones. Bidding on eBay was kinda slow and I won them both on my tight budget  8)
Please educate me, what can I expect in the mail the next couple of days?
The table phone (WE 202) works well with a home-made subset.  Mine: has a subset made of a German w48 coil, and a Norwegian ringer with capacitor. Works great!

dsk

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=16538.msg231578#msg231578 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=16538.msg231578#msg231578)
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on July 29, 2021, 03:47:03 PM
Thanks for showing that counterpart of the brown one FABphones. What do you think was it originally? I don't think I'll go for it but it looks like an interesting phone for sure.

Thanks for the link DSK! I have the innards of a Dutch type 1955 (the bat phone) waiting for a new use. They are similar to a W48, electrically. I guess they will also work. I'm now looking for a nice case to build a subset.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: dsk on July 29, 2021, 03:58:03 PM
Should work great!
Seems like that circuit works extremely well on ATA's
Good luck!
dsk
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on August 06, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: dsk on July 29, 2021, 03:58:03 PM
Should work great!

Well it did Dag :-)
I ended up using a W48 coil as well. I had one on the shelf and did not need to rip up that poor Dutch wiring loom that way. And it makes a smaller package, too. Pics will follow, too dark right now.
I'm really pleased with bot phones I bought, they are complete and in good condition.
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: dsk on August 06, 2021, 04:25:57 PM
Congratulations!
I wonder how enthusiasts will be playing with their collected mobile phones when they are 50-100 year old.  :)

dsk
Title: Re: What did I find here?
Post by: countryman on August 07, 2021, 07:00:57 AM
They might be used as toy blocks at best, but only if the batteries were removed in time.

Here are some pics of the D1. It has a vermilion stamp III/35 and a green stamp 2-49. Apparently it was refurbished an received a new 8-48 transmitter at that time.
A German transmitter capsule fits nicely into the F1 handset without any alterations. Surprisingly, as it is shaped totally different. The phone transmits and receives just fine with it. I'll clean the dial and contacts next as it still misdials, while the speed seems correct.
Last pic is my "subset". I do not need a ringer as there are plenty phones ringing where I connect it :-)