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Other Telephone Information => Off Topic => Lanterns, Lamps and other similar items => Topic started by: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 04:35:48 PM

Title: Little Green Lantern
Post by: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 04:35:48 PM
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I know this isn't a big find, but these lanterns keep finding me. I am in the process of cleaning out my late Father-N-Law's place and ran across this lantern still wrapped in shrink wrap. My first thought was of my forum lantern buddies. It's not terribly old and has NO markings at all on it, save the one sticker. (Sorry it slipped sideways) I expected to at least find a "China" stamp somewhere. It stands only about 10" tall.

I would call it NOS.

Benny

Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
Looks like a green version of my little silver lanterns, cheap, useable, if it breaks, buy another... :)
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: TelePlay on February 09, 2018, 06:48:28 PM
Seems there are more than a few companies making these cheap but functional lanterns for the poor in impoverished areas. The style of the green looks more like that of the Czech Republic Meva 864 Kerosene Lantern and not so much like the far eastern Hope No. 500 Korean Made Lantern (which is made in one factory, I think but can't prove, in the far east but the dies for the tank and fuel cap are changed so the wholesale buyer can import and sell them to Korea, Japan and China, the ones I've seen out of the far east so far.

The first image is the Czech Republic style Lantern by itself and again as the silver lantern in the center to show how small these are. The red on the left is the Hope lantern, this one marked Korea but identical to Japan and China Hope 500 lanterns.

The loops for the bail, the handle, are more similar to the Czech lantern as is the wire cage used to hold the globe.

Surprised there are no stampings on the green lantern (top of the fuel tank, the top cap or the fuel cap) so maybe it was made by an off shore company for distribution in the US without marking some time ago. It was nice of them to put the maximum fuel lever line on the lantern (right Al?) to prevent a runaway fireball.

They are cheap but they are good metal and painted. If the globe is clear, no color flashing issues to deal with..

Are you going to light it up?
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
Had to look for the picture I took of my 4 lanterns, and comparing to the green one, I'd say they're the same (or at least, made on similar tooling)... :)

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14712.0;attach=128241;image)

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=14712.msg154283#msg154283
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
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John,
Light it up? I don't know. Now that I'm the proud owner of two lanterns, I suppose that makes me a collector.

I may fire them up one night poolside.

Who knows how many I may have in my "collection" by then!

twocyclebloke,
They do look very much like my green one. They don't appear to have any stamping on them either. How tall are they?
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
They do look very much like my green one. They don't appear to have any stamping on them either. How tall are they?

Not including the hanger loop, mine are about 9.5 Inches tall... :)
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 07:40:26 PM
Not including the hanger loop, mine are about 9.5 Inches tall... :)

I believe they are exactly the same. Do you recall where you got them?
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
I believe they are exactly the same. Do you recall where you got them?

Ebay, this seller, but not the same listing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171696740662

Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: TelePlay on February 09, 2018, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Pourme on February 09, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Now that I'm the proud owner of two lanterns, I suppose that makes me a collector.

twocvbloke,
They do look very much like my green one. They don't appear to have any stamping on them either. How tall are they?

Yes, twocv's are identical in every way except for color.

The eBay seller seems to have an updated version, the fuel cap and the globe cage.



And here is the Collector's Rule of Thumb.

Initially you have one,
Then you have two,
Then you  have 4,
Then you have 8,
Then you have 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1028, 2024, 4048, 8096, etc . . . until some day you will have all there are in the world . . .   ;)

I sent a message to that eBay seller asking them where they come from and who makes them. I might get an answer. Probably Alibaba.
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: TelePlay on February 09, 2018, 08:21:53 PMThe eBay seller seems to have an updated version, the fuel cap and the globe cage.

If you look at where the burner is supposed to be, you'll note it's actually a picture of an LED lantern (which they also sold back when I bought my 4), which is the wrong picture, but they used the same pic on mine, so I guess they think it's okay, the filler cap has been replaced with a switch, hence why that looks different, and presumably, there's a battery access door in the base too... :)
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: TelePlay on February 09, 2018, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 08:29:15 PM
If you look at where the burner is supposed to be, you'll note it's actually a picture of an LED lantern (which they also sold back when I bought my 4), which is the wrong picture, but they used the same pic on mine, so I guess they think it's okay, the filler cap has been replaced with a switch, hence why that looks different, and presumably, there's a battery access door in the base too... :)

That's a deceptive listing and it does not have an option to buy LED or fuel. They only have silver and navy colors left. The eBay image shows the silver has the LED with fuel tank switch. All the colored lanterns have a wick in place (all taken from the back so the fuel cap is not seen).

They are selling them as "Hurricane Storm Lantern Light Oil Parafin Camping Lamp" and the description says:


Product Description

Hurricane Paraffin Lanterns

Features:
- Long lasting emergency lighting solution
- Refillable 
- Fueled by smokeless paraffin 
- Windproof glass flame cover 
- Glass cover lifts to allow easy lighting 
- Adjustable wick 
- Screw fit fuel reservoir and safety chain   
- Vented top cover   
- Carry handle    Light construction   
- Height: 24cm approx   Width: 17cm approx   Diameter: 12cm approx


Nothing in the description says battery or LED or switch. So, what are they selling, the wick version of the LED version?

I think they screwed up and put a picture of the LED type in the ad by mistake and anyone buying one would be getting a liquid fuel lantern.
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 09, 2018, 09:36:52 PM
Like I say, when I bought mine, they were using the same picture, but the description and title were for a set of paraffin lanterns, and that's what I got, it's just that they haven't picked up on that wrong picture, but I doubt that people pay as much attention to them as we do... :)
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: TelePlay on February 10, 2018, 10:17:31 AM
Got this from the eBay seller:


"UK and no sorry.

Kind Regards
Customer Services "

which I find interesting in that there is a place in the UK that still stamps these out of steel and paints them? But, he doesn't know who. Strange, if you know where they were made, you would know the company, right?

Walmart sells a similar lantern for $6-$10 wrapped in the similar shrink wrap. Next time I'm in there, I'll look them over well for similarities and where made.
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: Pourme on February 10, 2018, 01:22:42 PM
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"Initially you have one,
Then you have two,
Then you  have 4,
Then you have 8,
Then you have 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1028, 2024, 4048, 8096, etc . . . until some day you will have all there are in the world . . .
"

.....then you die~
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: rdelius on February 10, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
I have a Chalwyn Tropic.lantern. Made in England.About 1 foot or so tall.I bought it used 1n 1972. Because the  Boy Scouts would not allow pressuresed lanterns
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 10, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: TelePlay on February 10, 2018, 10:17:31 AMwhich I find interesting in that there is a place in the UK that still stamps these out of steel and paints them? But, he doesn't know who. Strange, if you know where they were made, you would know the company, right?

Given the "quality" of my 4, I'd say they're made in China, given a couple of them I had to re-shape, bend, twist and fettle to get the thing to sit properly on the burner and have the globe sit in it's holder properly, it's very thin metal too, so easy to bend out of shape of dropped or mis-handled...

The seller probably doesn't have access to the information of where they come from, after all, they're a national company rather than a small-time seller, and the nationals never know what they're doing in other parts of the business...
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: AL_as_needed on February 11, 2018, 05:31:14 PM
Either way, I think there will forever be a demand of these little guys. No matter what corner of the world people are in, things happen where you'll need a back-up. If it works, it works  :D

It is likely made in China and brought in by a whole-sale house and redistributed to chain stores etc.
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 11, 2018, 10:30:25 PM
There'll always be demand for lanterns, the only issue is keeping them fuelled given the amount of hate for fossil fuels these days, but I'm sure there'll always be alternatives to keep them lit... :)
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: AL_as_needed on February 23, 2018, 09:32:14 PM
On the note of fueling: I have tried a few different containers and means of filling and finally stumbled on something that works rather well.....open to interpretation of course.

First I used a long thin plastic funnel and poured right from the gallon jug of fuel. This worked "ok", but it was hard to see the fuel level while pouring and many a spill from over-filling was the result.

Next I tried a metal oil measuring cup with a spout..... same issues as with the funnel....

Then a pump oil can. This worked well,  but it took a year and a day to fill a lantern up. On the plus side, my thumbs got a work-out.

Currently I have been using an old brown cider bottle with a liquor pour spout. So far a great balance of speed and control  ;D
Title: Re: Little Green Lantern
Post by: twocvbloke on February 24, 2018, 07:09:16 AM
Quote from: AL_as_needed on February 23, 2018, 09:32:14 PMCurrently I have been using an old brown cider bottle with a liquor pour spout. So far a great balance of speed and control  ;D

Just so long as you don't mix up the bottles and pour a shot of the good stuff only to find it's fuel you're drinking...  ;D

I just decant my paraffin into a 500ml Pepsi bottle for filling my lanterns, the 4L jugs are okay for filling the Aladdins with (going in through the font hole rather than filler), but for little lanterns, I spilled more than I got in the tanks, the smaller neck of the Pepsi bottle makes it easier for me to control the flow... :)