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Title: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Greg G. on June 24, 2016, 05:09:07 PM
Take what would otherwise be a beautiful vintage vehicle and paint flames on it! 
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: twocvbloke on June 24, 2016, 05:13:55 PM
I feel the same way when I see decent motorbikes I'd like to have turned into so-called "cafe racers" and "bobbers", looks awful and ruins the bike... :-\

As for painted or decal flames on cars, that just looks silly on any car, it's ike putting a GTi badge on a 2CV, doesn't make it go faster, just makes people laugh at the driver...  ;D
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 24, 2016, 07:51:28 PM
They make chrome flame grillework also.  Nothing says a real person is following you like seeing those.
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Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on June 24, 2016, 10:28:52 PM
I hate just about anything custom when it comes to cars, especially red flames and a $20 flat black paint job!

Now what's wrong with the way it looked off the showroom floor?
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: jsowers on June 25, 2016, 07:58:35 AM
Nothing's wrong at all with how it looked off the showroom floor. But there are people with a mindset that customizing is OK and cooler than a car that's original. I know several people who've ruined perfectly good cars making them into something they're not. It's the same mindset of people who turn phones into lamps and TVs into fish tanks. They have no appreciation of history or authenticity.

I know of one person who's taking a 1957 Plymouth and making a "Christine" car out of it. Christine was a 1958 Plymouth Fury painted red, which was not how they came. The Fury was only painted Sandstone White in 1956-57 and Buckskin Beige in 1958. So he's making a fake fake car, or trying to, because he thinks it's cool.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Dan/Panther on June 25, 2016, 11:48:22 AM
My Mom and I were coming home yesterday from the doctors. A 46 ford like the one posted was driving down the highway, all original, maroon color white sidewalls. Looked great.

My Mom and Dad had one just like it when I was little. If She had seen the flamed one, Even my feelings would have been hurt for Her sake.
Dan
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: twocvbloke on June 25, 2016, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: jsowers on June 25, 2016, 07:58:35 AMIt's the same mindset of people who turn phones into lamps and TVs into fish tanks. They have no appreciation of history or authenticity.

I think i just found a new one to add to the list, turning a lamp into a lamp......................... :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272280620471
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on June 25, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: Dan/Panther on June 25, 2016, 11:48:22 AM
My Mom and I were coming home yesterday from the doctors. A 46 ford like the one posted was driving down the highway, all original, maroon color white sidewalls. Looked great.
Dan

Like this one? Sure looks beautiful!
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Mr. Bones on June 25, 2016, 02:32:41 PM
It's only paint, it can be re-done. ;)

Not exactly like using a drill press to violate/destroy forever a vintage telephone housing, or handset, and trashing the wiring to make a lamp. :o :'( :o :'(

Is it a '41, or '46 Ford? Same flavor, iirc. 8)

>>There's been more than paint done to the subject car; lowered, most likely later suspension is readily apparent. Reckoning a much more modern drivetrain, as well...

In order to restore to original, the paint would be the least difficult step, imho.<< 8)

ymmv

Best Regards!
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Nick in Manitou on June 25, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
It does look really good in red.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Babybearjs on June 25, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
the red table lamp was a actual marked product. I had one when I was a kid... I don't know if they took actual kerosene lamps and painted them red and then electrified them, or made the whole thing new. It was a novelty item and I liked mine until I grew out of that design...
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Dan/Panther on June 26, 2016, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on June 25, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Like this one? Sure looks beautiful!

Exactly, except the sedan model.
Dan
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: twocvbloke on June 26, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: Babybearjs on June 25, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
the red table lamp was a actual marked product.

I'd have thought it'd have been more logical to put the bulb inside the lamp, rather than stab a lamp through the lamp to make a lamp lamp that looks like it was made by a person who also turns phones into lamps........

Kind of like my LED lantern I made actually (and no decent lamps were harmed in the making of that one, just one leaky, poorly manufactured chinese thing with metal so thin it makes a pepsi can look like a tank's armour plating!!), and yes, it's mains powered and probably not electrically safe...  ;D
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 26, 2016, 03:02:56 PM
Looks good though!
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Post by: twocvbloke on June 26, 2016, 04:10:42 PM
It does, trouble is, the "warm white" LED I picked for it is more like "Thorium Mantle Green", so looks odd... ;D

That and it's cheap & lacks proper smoothing so has bad AC flicker, which is quite noticeable on 50Hz...
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 26, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
I like the looks of these for such purposes.  I have a hurricane style holder in the living room with one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-Flickering-Flame-STANDARD-Light-Bulbs-3w-Realistic-Candle-Flicker-E26-NEW-/111874988020?hash=item1a0c44d7f4:g:c20AAOSwSzdXBsCD
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 27, 2016, 02:29:40 PM
Ford, like a number of makers had to hold over their 1942 basic body styles til 1948.  They also went through a management crisis during that period.  Their next big styling change was in 1949 with the "shoebox" or "3 box" body style.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 29, 2016, 02:48:35 PM
Here's a guy who'd think those flames would look just right on anything.

http://kboi2.com/news/offbeat/man-sporting-flame-tattoo-eyebrows-arrested-in-meth-bust-near-school
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: Babybearjs on June 29, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
that's the one thing about LED's is the flicker effect.... it has to do with the phasing. it see it mainly in low voltage lighting and in Christmas lights.... that's why I don't like the LED Christmas lights, plus the "Cool White" and "neon Blue" colors are too hard on the eyes!
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on June 29, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Babybearjs on June 29, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
that's the one thing about LED's is the flicker effect.... it has to do with the phasing. it see it mainly in low voltage lighting and in Christmas lights.... that's why I don't like the LED Christmas lights, plus the "Cool White" and "neon Blue" colors are too hard on the eyes!

For our Christmas tree, we have soft white LEDs (no flicker). They look very nice, and feel 'fresher' yet don't don't feel very harsh. We've had the tree and same string of lights for about seven years now, and not one light has gone out!
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on June 29, 2016, 09:14:21 PM
I use the T5 type led strings in color, but for my outdoor decoration.  They seem to have richer color than the faceted or long shapes.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: andy1702 on July 23, 2019, 01:33:01 PM
I have lots of oil lamps and they are all just that... oil lamps. They get used too.

Last christmas I went to a Christmas Fair where there was a stall selling all kinds of things turned into lamps. I had a friendly chat with the guy on the stall and explained that I restore phones. He pointed out a bakelite phone he had turned into a lamp and asked what I thought it was worth. "About £60 as a working phone, or a fiver for spares as a lamp" was my honest reply. I don't think he sold a single one all weekend.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: 19and41 on July 23, 2019, 05:36:38 PM
It is also sad to see a oil lamp that has been drastically altered to electric light.
Title: Re: I hate it when they do this!
Post by: twocvbloke on July 23, 2019, 05:39:53 PM
The problem with making things into lamps is they're often made by people who want to see it as a lamp themselves, a friend of mine turned his old, worn out clarinet into a lamp a few years back, I'm sure some musical instrument people would baulk at the idea, but to him, it looks nice, it's had its' time (he played it a lot apparently, hence being worn out), and now lives on as a lamp...  :)

Now of course, taking something valuable and collectable and turning it into spare parts by drilling holes into it and sticking a bulb in it, well, we all know our opinions on that...  ;D

In my case with my cheap chinese lamp, it wasn't fit for purpose from the outset, and as it was part of a set of four, I didn't feel it was any real loss to turn it into something else that was more useful, even if I haven't actually used it, but, each to his own... :)