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Telephone Identification, Repair & Restoration => Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair => Topic started by: Jf510 on October 11, 2021, 07:21:07 PM

Title: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: Jf510 on October 11, 2021, 07:21:07 PM
I have a few Western Electric 302's but with no dial and I wanted them to work so I wired up a WE 6 dial to one of them and it worked fine. I also have a few of these 6S dials but I could not get them to work. The BL terminal is throwing me since the other 6 dials does not have that terminal. Is there a way to wire one of these dials to work on a 302?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: paul-f on October 11, 2021, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: Jf510 on October 11, 2021, 07:21:07 PM
...I also have a few of these 6S dials but I could not get them to work. The BL terminal is throwing me since the other 6 dials does not have that terminal.

You can see the difference in the 6S dial contacts in Fig. 5 of this BSP.

https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/search?q=501-162-100+i7 (https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/search?q=501-162-100+i7)

If you don't want to experiment with wiring alternatives, some may be interested in swapping for a 6A dial.
Title: Re: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: poplar1 on October 11, 2021, 08:30:27 PM
The pulsing contact springs  on a 6S are G and BL. So you put the brown-yellow hookswitch wire on G (instead of Y on a 5H or 6A dial) and the two black wires (black handset cord wire and black condenser wire) on BL (instead of BK on a 5H/6A).

The other contact springs are different from a 5H or 6A dial. BB and W open on the 5H/6A, but make on the 6S. You could try putting both the brown-blue hookswitch wire and the White receiver wire on W, and install a new wire from BB on 6S dial to R on the induction coil (where the red handset wire is).
Title: Re: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: Jf510 on October 11, 2021, 08:36:41 PM
Thanks for that info. I will give that a try.
Title: Re: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: poplar1 on October 11, 2021, 08:40:28 PM
The final step would be to strap BL and BK on the dial, and connect the slate-red wire from L1 on induction coil to R on the 6S. Don't know if this is really necessary.
Title: Re: Western Electric 6S dial
Post by: Jf510 on October 12, 2021, 04:36:10 PM
Poplar1...I got it to work but I had to do all of what you said moving those two leads on the dial and I had to do both straps as you suggested. Thanks again for your help. I would of never figured that out.