Change Payphone Upper Housing from Touch to Rotary?

[DavePEI]

Well it's not the dial. I have 2 contacts that close once you start dialing, these have 2 yellow and 2 white wires. And i have a set of contacts that are closed before you start dialing, this does the pulses. I am getting 10 pulses for 0. It must be in the wiring of this upper unit. Because you are suppose to be able to hear the pulses while dialing correct? Because i can't.

Is one of those two sets of contacts opening and closing as the dial rotates? Probably that is what you mean by 10 pulses for 0.

Yes, it brings us back to the wiring of the upper unit.

Dave

[robrings]

Ok, going off of the schematic you gave me it is wired way wrong. Like someone swapped this broken terminal board into this upper, but didn't check to make sure the connections were soldered in the right spots on the back.All my colors are right for the round P1 connector, but the terminals those wires go to on my block are all wrong. I think unless someone has a replacment terminal the want to sell, I am going to take this all apart, epoxy the terminal back together and resolder all the wires to the correct spots.

[robrings]

I am going to have to give up for a while. I'm ready to smash the thing. I took the upper unit apart, epoxied the terminal block. Reattached all the connections as per the wiring diagram still the same thing, makes a pause in the dial tone but you can't hear the pulses going through and won't place a call.

Does anyone do repairs for a decent price?

[robrings]

Well i gave up on this upper housing working with my touch tone lower. SO i found another one on sleezebay. Complete with all original internals. The new ones works. (after i spent 2hrs drilling/digging the upper lock out) and it's upper didn't work with my touch tone lower either.

I also tested the other rotary upper on the new lower and it worked.

So here is my new question, or should i start a new thread?

How do i make the hopper work so when i add change it dumps it into the change box after a call is completed? Right now it doesn't make me put any money in to work. Just pick up and dial. When i put money it it stays in the hopper. But i think it would be cool to make it work right. Here are some pics of the phone in my booth.

http://s300.beta.photobucket.com/user/ringwar/media/Rotary%20Payphone/DSCF1220_zpsa2051512.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

[DavePEI]

Well i gave up on this upper housing working with my touch tone lower. SO i found another one on sleezebay. Complete with all original internals. The new ones works. (after i spent 2hrs drilling/digging the upper lock out) and it's upper didn't work with my touch tone lower either.

I also tested the other rotary upper on the new lower and it worked.

So here is my new question, or should i start a new thread?

How do i make the hopper work so when i add change it dumps it into the change box after a call is completed? Right now it doesn't make me put any money in to work. Just pick up and dial. When i put money it it stays in the hopper. But i think it would be cool to make it work right. Here are some pics of the phone in my booth.

http://s300.beta.photobucket.com/user/ringwar/media/Rotary%20Payphone/DSCF1220_zpsa2051512.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

The only way to do this is to buy a payphone controller and wire it in to the relay.

http://tinyurl.com/bhyznve

Dave

[robrings]

I emailed that guy to see if it would work with my single slot phone. Thanks

[AE_Collector]

No need, just check the other Payphone Topics in the board that this post is located.

Terry

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?board=38.0

[DavePEI]

I emailed that guy to see if it would work with my single slot phone. Thanks

Yes, he is the only one who can tell you for sure. It won't perform all the functions it would on a 3 slot phone, but should enforce paying to make a call...

Let us know for sure, as none of us have to full answer for a single slot with it, but he will know for sure.

Otheriwse, just go with using the phone as a non pay hone.

Dave

[AE_Collector]

I thought I read a ton of info here on CRPF about the Payphone Controller with Single SLot Phones. It was written by Stan and basically said that he didn't see any point in getting one for a Single Slot.

Terry

[DavePEI]

How do i make the hopper work so when i add change it dumps it into the change box after a call is completed? Right now it doesn't make me put any money in to work. Just pick up and dial. When i put money it it stays in the hopper. But i think it would be cool to make it work right. Here are some pics of the phone in my booth.

http://s300.beta.photobucket.com/user/ringwar/media/Rotary%20Payphone/DSCF1220_zpsa2051512.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

If you mean that your coins are just going down to escrow and not dumping down to the coin box, just tie the coin relay in the closed position with a wire tie. If you want to force payment for a call, you need a controller... But, it will allow a call with any coin deposited, and won't differentiate between a nickel, dime or quarter.

Dave

[DavePEI]

I thought I read a ton of info here on CRPF about the Payphone Controller with Single SLot Phones. It was written by Stan and basically said that he didn't see any point in getting one for a Single Slot.

Terry

Hi Terry:

Basically what he said it that he couldn't see a need to use a controller, as the phone will work without one - basically it wil over-ride the totalizer but he doesn't rule using  it out completely. Read the section on single slot phones in his ad. But if someone wants only to make people deposit a coin for a call, with extra wiring, it will do that, but can't differentiate between a nickel, dime or quarter inserted. There are a number of functions which would be available to a 3 slot with the controller that wouldn't be available. If it is to be used, it must be used with the original type relay.

So, it is up to you whether it is worth it. I personally feel best is to simply tie the relay so coins will drop out of escrow into the coin box if people put coins in. Much cheaper and less trouble in the long run.

Dave

[robrings]

Yeah, i read the rest of his ad. Seems not really worth the $ just to have it electrically collect coins. A zip tie is a lot cheaper. Maybe some day someone will make a controller to be fully functional with a single slot. This one is all original with the totalizer intact. Very nice shape. Aside from the handset cord being a little mangled.

[DavePEI]

Yeah, i read the rest of his ad. Seems not really worth the $ just to have it electrically collect coins. A zip tie is a lot cheaper. Maybe some day someone will make a controller to be fully functional with a single slot. This one is all original with the totalizer intact. Very nice shape. Aside from the handset cord being a little mangled.

Yes, that is what I would recommend above all. It would be interested to hear his reply to your email, though, as it could help us with further comments on his controller. They work great on a 3 slot, but single slots are quite different animals. It almost sounds to me as though it probably isn't worth it.
Zip ties are certainly cheaper - only bear in mind no one wil be forced to insert a coin for a call, but they can if they want

Dave

[ESalter]

I was talking with my dad earlier today about controlling singleslots.  We are going to make up a controller/test box for them and see if we can come up with a cheap way of making controllers that would actually count the money.  If we come up with anything good, I'll be sure to post about it.

---Eric

[DavePEI]

I was talking with my dad earlier today about controlling singleslots.  We are going to make up a controller/test box for them and see if we can come up with a cheap way of making controllers that would actually count the money.  If we come up with anything good, I'll be sure to post about it.

---Eric

Hi Eric:

That would be cool!

Dave