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Cleaning AE 34 - Farm Fresh+++

Started by DavePEI, March 14, 2013, 06:27:07 PM

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DavePEI

Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 21, 2013, 12:30:06 PM
I think that I am missing the whole ringer assembly.

Larry
Hi Larry:

Too bad - that AE 34 mount is hard to find. It is about a 45 degree mount that the ringer mounts on and installs on the base. Well, keep it in mind - if my ringer tests ok, I would be happy to pass it along to you. But I would want to have time to be sure mine is good.

Dave
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DavePEI

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Now, I have to get the handset apart to install the new extensicord. It is pretty well stuck. Will have to find my strap wrench! No problem with the mouthpiece end - I have a monophone tool. But, I will likely finish cleaning up the dial and case first.

Sure looks a lot better than when it first arrived!

The dial is now cleaned and re-lubricated, and working great. I use an ultrasonic cleaner in L&R non foaming watch cleaner, then re-lubricate with teflon based lube. Smooth and quiet as new now, though at first, it could hardly be turned manually! I have done a number of AE dials with great success that way.

Photo: Still in progress, extensicord and new line cord cord installed on base, dial repaired, more cleaning... Connection of the extensicord to the handset, and lots of polishing left to do.

There is no wiring diagram in the base, but it has the coil mounted in the base, and the dial is a US dial. I am used to AEs having a small schematic located inside the base. The ringer is a straight line ringer,  thankfully.

Dave
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Doug Rose

Dave....I know what I was quoted for these, seems like an awful lot for a damaged phone. This is such a shame. I always tell the seller to pack it so tight in newspaper that nothing moves, obviously something moved. Sorry to see this....Doug
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DavePEI

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Quote from: Doug Rose on March 21, 2013, 06:24:45 PM
Dave....I know what I was quoted for these, seems like an awful lot for a damaged phone. This is such a shame. I always tell the seller to pack it so tight in newspaper that nothing moves, obviously something moved. Sorry to see this....Doug
Hi Doug:

It was packed well - the handset was separately bubble wrapped from the body of the phone, but then they were side by side in the box, and it seems it received quite a hit during shipping. Sadly, it still got damaged. It was well packed, but it just proves that the best packing can't be bullet proof. I am fortunate, though the broken pieces would up inside the phone body, so I should be able to repair it...

Now, the remaining problems are simple buffing, and getting the transmitter ring on the handset off so I can attach the new cords. It is really firmly in place! I have tried heat, cold, and am now dousing it in WD 40 trying to loosen it off. I have never had a more difficult transmitter cap to remove!

Dave
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DavePEI

Ok, I have come to a standstill. I have removed many transmitter caps, but this one is beating me. I need to get it off to change the cord, but I have never had one which is so ignorant!

I have tried heat, cold, WD-40 and can't get it to budge at all. Any suggestions?

Dave
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LarryInMichigan

Since the ring holding the transmitter cap is brass, heating it should cause it to expand.  I would suggest trying more heat.

Larry

DavePEI

Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 21, 2013, 08:10:28 PM
Since the ring holding the transmitter cap is brass, heating it should cause it to expand.  I would suggest trying more heat.

Larry

Hi Larry:

I have had a high temperature hair drier on it for ten minutes several times - still won't budge! SO hot that you can't leave your fingers on the ring.

Dave
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LarryInMichigan

Then try letting it sit overnight with WD-40 or something in the threads.  I have opened a whole bunch of these.  many were difficult, but they all came off.  Be careful if the handset has the type 41 transmitter mounted on an angle.  Twisting the bakelite part will break off the contacts in the handset.

Larry

DavePEI

Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 21, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Then try letting it sit overnight with WD-40 or something in the threads.  I have opened a whole bunch of these.  many were difficult, but they all came off.  Be careful if the handset has the type 41 transmitter mounted on an angle.  Twisting the bakelite part will break off the contacts in the handset.

Larry
I will keep on with it - leave it soaking again with WD-40 sprayed on. Hope it will come off tomorrow. Don't want to destroy it since I have the phone all fixed up now... Other than replacing the handset end of the extensicord...

Dave
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LarryInMichigan

Those type 38 handsets are not entirely difficult to replace, if it comes to that.  I have a few spares.

Larry

DavePEI

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Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 21, 2013, 09:00:12 PM
Those type 38 handsets are not entirely difficult to replace, if it comes to that.  I have a few spares.

Larry

Hopefully, I will get the transmitter off tomorrow. Guess its been there since 1938 or so and pretty well corroded in place. I wish that I hadn't needed to replace the cord - it would have been so much easier!

Otherwise the phone is coming on great. I found the missing pieces from the grille, and will be able to re-glue them without showing, and the dial is as smooth as any now, though it was completely seized when the phone came. So, overall, I am pretty pleased, once I get past this problem!

In the morning following, I did more polishing, and cleaned the paint off the rubber gasket on the base. Looking good! Still working on the handset.

Dave
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DavePEI

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Hi All:

Success this morning getting the transmitter off to change the cord to the Extensicord. In the process of getting it off, it took half a can of WD-40, repeated applications of hot and cold, cost me a broken strap wrench, but finally it yielded this morning!

Here is a final photo of it - some buffing still to go, but 90% done. I am very pleased with it!

Dave
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LarryInMichigan

Congratulations.  The phone is looking much happier now.  I expect that you would rather break a strap wrench than the handset.  Does the handset have the older type of transmitter which sits flat on the handset or the type 41 with the goofy angular spring mount?

Larry

DavePEI

Quote from: LarryInMichigan on March 22, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
Congratulations.  The phone is looking much happier now.  I expect that you would rather break a strap wrench than the handset.  Does the handset have the older type of transmitter which sits flat on the handset or the type 41 with the goofy angular spring mount?

Larry

Hi Larry:

Yes, I'd certainly rather break a strap wrench than the handset!

It had the older flat transmitter in it...

Now, I can take my time buffing it - it will look great when I am done!

Dave
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HowardPgh

One tip about removing and replacing the transmitter in the handset.
Hold the spit cup part down to the handset to take tension off the ring and keep the transmitter from turning.
The transmitter and spitcup are keyed together with small bakelite bumps on the flat part of the cup and the transmitter is keyed into the handset so it fits one way.
Those rings are hard to remove and replace if there is the slightest dent in them.
Howard